Filthy Dangles
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We know where SJ stands but its up to EKHighly doubt SJ doesn’t resign him.
REalistically? Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers, 1st, 2nd.
I dont get the point of this thread. We speculated for months what he should go for. We found out yesterday what one year of him is realistically worth.
REalistically? Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers, 1st, 2nd.
I dont get the point of this thread. We speculated for months what he should go for. We found out yesterday what one year of him is realistically worth.
I'd have been concerned, but would have done:
1st 2020, 2nd 2019, Meier, Norris/Balcers/Merkeley, conditional 1st 2021 (re-signing)
OR
1st 2020, 2nd 2019, Labanc, Norris/Balcers/Merkeley, Braun/Dillon/Demelo, conditional 1st 2021 (re-signing)
But is it commensurate to the value and talent he will provide over 1 year? Everyone is saying Ottawa got fleece and it's a horrible deal. Therefore I am asking what a fair deal might have looked like.
REalistically? Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers, 1st, 2nd.
I dont get the point of this thread. We speculated for months what he should go for. We found out yesterday what one year of him is realistically worth.
That was a discussion the sens needed to have with EK. Cause a tdl trade means 2 playoff runs not just 1, so that ups the price from what SJ paid.I think TB's deal with NY is a template for the absolute floor. I don't see how or why our offer for Karlsson wouldn't have been at least a little better.
How people value prospects is somewhat subjective, but Howden was a top-3 prospect in our system, probably #2, and our prospect pool, despite a lack of blue chippers, is pretty deep. We have several guys who project to be NHLers, and a few of them, like those two, project(ed) to be impact players.
So, removing JT Miller from the deal, it's reasonable to think TB's offer, at least at the TDL, would have been better than: Howden + Hajek + 1st + Conditional 1st/2nd.
My guess is we'd still throw in Namestnikov. Probably more.
I don't think that was the price for one year of Karlsson.
They got a very good package deal for him. Honestly better than I expected.
I thought we would get the 1st one too. Can't believe we didnt even get that.
Sorry - subtract out whatever ou think the throw in from Ottawa was worth?
Highly doubt SJ doesn’t resign him.
That was a discussion the sens needed to have with EK. Cause a tdl trade means 2 playoff runs not just 1, so that ups the price from what SJ paid.
So that’s the part that is confusing for me. Did they talk to EK about all the scenarios? If they trade him in the summer would he want to sign with the new team cause that impacts the return. Did he change his mind since that point in time? Who knows.
But in Feb the sens needed to have a full on discussion with EK about the options. Any move the sens wanted to make would be dependant on EK signing with the new team.
Huh?
All I'm saying is I don't think San Jose does the deal unless they have already talked with EK's agent and have the framework for an extension.
"everyone" is full of shit. The value of a player or a car or a house or whatever is the price it commands on the open market. Period.But is it commensurate to the value and talent he will provide over 1 year? Everyone is saying Ottawa got fleece and it's a horrible deal. Therefore I am asking what a fair deal might have looked like.
But is it commensurate to the value and talent he will provide over 1 year? Everyone is saying Ottawa got fleece and it's a horrible deal. Therefore I am asking what a fair deal might have looked like.