Real Madrid - Liverpool: CL Final 26th May

Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Savant, May 2, 2018.

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Who wins?

Poll closed May 27, 2018.
  1. Real Madrid

    62.0%
  2. Liverpool

    38.0%
  1. Havre Registered User

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    Klopp can´t drop Karius now. What kind of signal would that send? The first mistake is completely random - got very little to do with his goalkeeping abilities. I know some will talk about mental strength, but all you need to do then is to watch Baresi take that penalty in 94. So if Klopp drops him he will indirectly tell all his players mistakes are not allowed. Only fools believe that good football players do not make mistakes - not even Mourinho believes that.

    If he keeps making mistakes of course......
     
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    The first goal was bad enough. It was Ulreich bad (semis BAY-Real), but the 2nd sealed the deal. No Pool player helped him when he was lying on the pitch. Real players comfort him. IMO the message was clear.
     
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    I would have like to see someone go over there right away, but it wasn't that bad

     
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    I think SMS is finely rated and Salah was too when he played in Serie A, he just really stepped up and turned out to be the perfect fit for Liverpool.
     
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    PSG can keep him. I am not interested.

    Too bad Perez will be.
     
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    Granted I didn't watch Real all that much this year, but whenever I did I saw Navas pull out some brilliant stops. I wouldn't underrate him too hard
     
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    When a defender makes a mistake which results in a goal, he can still make up for that by scoring one himself.

    Goalie can not.

    That's why a soccer goalie's main job is not to make mistakes. Especially not two in a single match. And, above all, should you make a couple of mistakes in on game after all, make sure it's not a CL final.
     
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    There are many other ways to make up for something than just scoring, especially for goalies and defenders.
     
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    Yeah. Lovely bunch.

    I don´t have a problem with elite athletes being ruthless, but there is a time for everything.

    So if Klopp drops one goalkeeper because of two huge mistaks - he has to drop the next one when he makes mistakes as well.

    De Gea would never have played for Utd by that logic. Lloris would have been sold this summer etc.
     
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    How dare you criticize a Finn's natural trendency/pasttime to argue about semantics/nitpick about details? What's next, people can't complain about Busquets diving/peeking?
     
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    Blabber.
     
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    What was worse - Gerrard slip or Karius' Butterfingers?
     
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    It wasn't like Karius caused a FA cup first round exit vs Wigan or Huddersfield. It was the CL final. Not many Pool players will probably ever play such a game again.
    That beeing said, Karius MO is done at Liverpool. He didn't do it on purpose, of course. But nobody in Liverpool will ever forgive.
     
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    Again - if you are arguing that it is due to the importance of the game - then I suggest that you take a look on the history of the world cup. Absolutely filled with players much better and more experienced than Karius making high profile inexplicable mistakes.

    I don´t disagree that he probably hasn´t got a long term future at Liverpool. But extremely risky to throw him under the bus short term based on those mistakes. Liverpool have gotten this far with team spirit and confidence.

    We won´t agree on this.
     
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    Would he even want to stay after all those death threats?
     
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    Gerrard slip was worse. Liverpool have not won EPL in a long long time. Karius mistake was terrible but Liverpool was already down 2-1 with less then 10 minutes left in the game.
     
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    Could be the easy way out of course.

    "I got to leave because of the death threats"

    Klopp doesn´t have to drop him.

    Personally I think he stays. I am guessing death threats isn´t something that unusual for football players.
     
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    Sadly not. And if it isn't death threats, it's a level of personal abuse that I doubt the perpetrators would dare hurl at anyone were they face to face and without a gang of people to back them up.

    What's interesting is to ponder whether they ever go back and think about what they do, and whether they ever feel ashamed of their cowardice.

    Given the frequency with which these things happen, presumably not.
     
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    A more worthwhile question might be, 'Would he want to work quite as hard, or prefer to just ease off and pocket the money until his contract runs out in 2021?'
     
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    Normally I'd agree here, but Liverpool have been without a top Keeper since Reina. It's been too long. They've been linked with top keepers most of the season. Karius had a very nice hot streak, but started cooling down and yesterday was yesterday. They can't ignore the position any longer. It's not just because of yesterday. Getting a new keeper was always part of the plan.
     
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    The Gerrard slip was the worst loss I have experienced as a sports fan.
     
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    This photo of Ox post game is heart breaking. Loved the guy at Ox, sucks to these guys get big injuries and such pivotal points of the season
     
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    Bernd Leno (currently German Nr. 3) from Bayer Leverkusen might be on the market since Lev just signed Frankfurt's Hradecky. Upgrade for sure.
     
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    Can we start the draft soon so I can move on from this game?
     
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    They've been linked with Alisson all season, I think they need to exhaust that before looking elsewhere. They can't go for another project.
     

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