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In all fairness, I would prefer that we did not sign Samuelsson OR Hudler. I opt out of the bad player free agent bonanza entirely.How's that Samuelsson signing working out ahead of keeping Hudler?
In all fairness, I would prefer that we did not sign Samuelsson OR Hudler. I opt out of the bad player free agent bonanza entirely.How's that Samuelsson signing working out ahead of keeping Hudler?
So... some of you think Franzen will be bought out. A lot of you think $4.5m is too pricey and Flip should just be let go.
How's that Samuelsson signing working out ahead of keeping Hudler?
So... some of you think Franzen will be bought out. A lot of you think $4.5m is too pricey and Flip should just be let go.
How's that Samuelsson signing working out ahead of keeping Hudler?
This forum sure is a hoot. At LGW, people accepted immediately that these were nothing more than unreliable rumors. Over here, people immediately began raving about how terrible a GM Holland is.
Well done, folks.
This forum sure is a hoot. At LGW, people accepted immediately that these were nothing more than unreliable rumors. Over here, people immediately began raving about how terrible a GM Holland is.
Well done, folks.
I think most of the posters get scared of a thought that Holland will sign Cleary and knowing Holland it is a very good chance he will. This is regardless of the article.
Holland's signings of Samuelsson, Bertuzzi and now possibly Cleary are bad/very bad.
Re-signing Cleary would only make sense if we didn't already have Samuelsson and Bertuzzi. Even then it's better to let him walk.
This forum sure is a hoot. At LGW, people accepted immediately that these were nothing more than unreliable rumors. Over here, people immediately began raving about how terrible a GM Holland is.
Well done, folks.
I think Brunner has filled his roster spot more than adequately.
Except Brunner wasn't signed to replace Hudler, Samuelsson was.
Nobody can coherently argue that the Wings would be worse this year with a $4m Hudler.
Brunner was absolutely signed to replace Hudler. He was put in Hudler's spot on a line with Zetterberg before he ever set foot in Detroit.
Sammy was signed to add depth. He wasn't even a top 6 forward until injuries came along.
Some of Hudler's salary was used to add Samuelsson but he was never meant to play in Hudler's spot.
Except Brunner wasn't signed to replace Hudler, Samuelsson was.
Nobody can coherently argue that the Wings would be worse this year with a $4m Hudler.
Nobody can coherently argue that the Wings would be worse this year with a $4m Hudler.
If Hudler was one or two years, I'd be a lot more open to him. Four years doesn't interest me at all.
Brunner was absolutely signed to replace Hudler. He was put in Hudler's spot on a line with Zetterberg before he ever set foot in Detroit.
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Some of Hudler's salary was used to add Samuelsson but he was
never meant to play in Hudler's spot.
I agree with everything you said except the bolded portion, the original lineup was the DBZ line and then Mule-Filp-Sammy on the 2nd. So technically he was meant to be a top 6er, but still Brunner was Hudler's replacement and I for one couldn't be happier with him.
Samuelsson is a replacement for Jiri Hudler. He's an older but better skating option that can be just as effective as Hudler if given the right environment, and his $3 million a year price tag is likely at least $1 million cheaper than what Hudler will go for.
When they signed Brunner he was said to have a top six spot. One part of Hudler's game was for Sammy and that was point on the PP and Sammy is better at that. Sammy was going to be given time in the top 6, but it was thought he could slide around with Cleary and Bertuzzi. Sammy had the leg up because of a good history with Filppula and Franzen. They didn't seem as married to that in the press as the PP point.
Nobody can coherently argue they would be better either, that is impossible to prove one way or the other.
I thought I remembered reading that Hudler was only asking for like, $3.5m or something, and Holland wouldn't bite on that. Would you have done 3 years at $3.5m
I thought we were supposed to have offered $3.3m? Anyway, I probably wouldn't have bit on that. I'd have been more okay with 2 years at $4m, or one year at $5m (or even more, really, for just a stop gap measure).
Yeah, it seems to me the difference was REALLY tiny (.... lol?), but it is what it is.
Like I said before, in a season or so, Holland will trade for him.
Yeah, and everyone will hate him and wonder why we didn't spend our pick on player X instead.
To get back on track about Flip a bit, I'm one the fence on bringing him back. If we're going to sign a guy like Flip, I'd be tempted just to wait for free agency to start and take whoever's cheapest among Flip, Weiss, and Derek Roy.
To get back on track about Flip a bit, I'm one the fence on bringing him back. If we're going to sign a guy like Flip, I'd be tempted just to wait for free agency to start and take whoever's cheapest among Flip, Weiss, and Derek Roy.