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That's the dream, I hope he makes it a reality.He's like the Hampus Lindholm of 2019
That's the dream, I hope he makes it a reality.He's like the Hampus Lindholm of 2019
I also think the AHL might be the best step to take. Let him get used to NA ice. Also, in Grand Rapids you can exert some influence over how he is used. His coach in Mannheim OTOH has zero obligations to the Wings. His only interest is winning hockey games. That's what his job depends on. And if he figures that means giving ice time and special team duties to his veteran d-men over Seider, that's what he will do.He looks too good to send back to Germany. I'm thinking he's going to Grand Rapids to kick things off and will get at least a cup of coffee on the Wings roster this year. The future looks bright for this kid. Excited to see what he can do.
Well, from what I've seen, euro prospects have had more success when staying in Europe for longer and only moving to NA when they're close to NHL ready. However, there's such a small sample size for German players that it's tough to say in that case specifically. Draisaitl certainly did fine going to NA early.I don't know if this was already mentioned/asked about recently but how much exposure does Seider have to the North American ice? That's always an interesting factor when deciding where a Euro prospect should play: do you want him acclimating to the NA ice or is he better off developing his game in Europe and working on figuring out the smaller ice later?
Well, from what I've seen, euro prospects have had more success when staying in Europe for longer and only moving to NA when they're close to NHL ready. However, there's such a small sample size for German players that it's tough to say in that case specifically. Draisaitl certainly did fine going to NA early.
This is a good post. I can tell effort was put in and I learned something. Cheers, mate.It is always difficult to predict because every player is different.
Just looking back at the last notable (or somewhat notable) defensemen from Germany, these are the routes they took:
Christian Ehrhoff - 862 NHL GP - 120 AHL GP (0 before his first NHL game) - 314 DEL GP (181 before his first NHL game)
Ehrhoff was drafted as an overager out of Germany in the 3rd round and had no previous North America experience. Was 21 years old when he made the jump to NA.
Korbinian Holzer - 162 NHL GP - 232 AHL GP (8 before his first NHL game) - 157 DEL GP (157 before his first NHL game)
Holzer was drafted out of Germany in the 4th round and had no previous North America experience. Was 22 years old when he made the jump to NA.
Christoph Schubert - 346 NHL GP - 231 AHL GP (231 before his first NHL game) - 377 DEL GP (124 before his first NHL game)
Schubert was drafted as an overager out of Germany in the 4th round and had no previous North America experience. Was 20 years old when he made the jump to NA.
Dennis Seidenberg - 928 NHL GP - 158 AHL GP (0 before his first NHL game) - 159 DEL GP (133 before his first NHL game)
Seidenberg was drafted as a double overager out of Germany in the 6th round and had played a season of Midget hockey in the year he was first eligible for the draft. Was 21 years old when he made the jump to NA.
Alexander Sulzer - 131 NHL GP - 162 AHL GP (100 before his first NHL game) - 451 DEL GP (232 before his first NHL game)
Sulzer was drafted as an overager out of Germany in the 3rd round and had no previous North America experience. Was 23 years old when he made the jump to NA.
Seider is more talented than any of them and ways ahead in his development compared to where these guys were at the same age.
I don't know which would be the best way to go with him. I guess it depends on what the Wings see from him in camp. They should be able to gauge how comfortable he is on the smaller ice surface. Given his overall maturity I doubt that being away from home in a new country will be an issue for him, but you never know for sure.
I agree with that. First round drafting was Yzerman’s one glaring weakness with Tampa.
Only one game but I really liked him so far.
He ate a dirty, blindside hit from Dach early in the 2nd and proceeded to take every opportunity he could to put Dach on his ass the rest of the game. Seider is really strong on his skates.
He jumped up into the offense quite a bit. That may be something that can bite him in the ass, but it didn't here. He never got caught in the offensive zone.
His passing is really good, and he put on a clinic on the PP. I think I only saw one pass the entire night that didn't hit its target.
Only thing I'd question is that he seems to sometimes tag team guys on the defensive end. One particular rush I saw guys coming in and he tag teamed the carrier, who Regula already had covered. Maybe he saw that the other guys were already covered. It's tough to say as there were no replays.
Definitely a dominant game out there from Seider and loved the mean streak. He buried Dach 2 or 3 times after that. I dont know the rush youre talking about on the double team but thats pretty standard stuff in high level sports. The wings likely had numbers back so he just doubled the puck carrier. Definitely not a negative to take away from the game.
Its one game in the middle of summer but he looked like he had every tool to be a number one dman tonight. Not a bad thing you could say about him out there tonight. He played much more physical and offensive minded than I thought he would. But scouts were saying he played differently with guys his age than against the men in germany
Can anyone that has seen him play comment on his shot? Namely his slapper/one timer? I don't believe any of his highlights show him actually shooting the puck besides his wrist shot goal in the WC's against Britain.
when your that big with those soft of hands and the height to get great whip out of the graphite theres no use working the slapper because the wrister gets there just as quickly without telegraphing the shot . hes a very smart player thats always looking to sneak wristers through the tight areas = higher percentage shots than inaccurate slappersCan anyone that has seen him play comment on his shot? Namely his slapper/one timer? I don't believe any of his highlights show him actually shooting the puck besides his wrist shot goal in the WC's against Britain.
There is absolutely nothing special about his offensive game at this point.
Passing is average. Shooting is nothing special.
He's huge. He skates. He's smart.
That's it. That could be enough to make him a solid 2nd pairing defenseman.
Looks like someones still ******** that Yzerman "reached". I thought he looked pretty good considering he was one of the most noticeable players on the ice and he's only 18 years old. BTW who pisses in your cereal every morning?
I liked some of his offensive play at world champs.There is absolutely nothing special about his offensive game at this point.
Passing is average. Shooting is nothing special.
He's huge. He skates. He's smart.
That's it. That could be enough to make him a solid 2nd pairing defenseman.
This sounds like Seider is a bit like Hampus Lindholm, very very smart guy who gets shots thru traffic. Dmen like that can get double digits in goals in the NHL because of smarts.when your that big with those soft of hands and the height to get great whip out of the graphite theres no use working the slapper because the wrister gets there just as quickly without telegraphing the shot . hes a very smart player thats always looking to sneak wristers through the tight areas = higher percentage shots than inaccurate slappers
thats him . an extremely aware player thats checking off options as quickly as anybody while seeing far into the future . besides great hockey mind has very soft hands ands a very coordinated skater . i put the formula together of size + skating + smarts + hands + as a great additional bonus a temper that makes him a spirited competitor and i wont be surprised at all if he becomes a perrenial allstar . my favorite redwing prospect since datsyuk .This sounds like Seider is a bit like Hampus Lindholm, very very smart guy who gets shots thru traffic. Dmen like that can get double digits in goals in the NHL because of smarts.
Sounds like the perfect prospect.thats him . an extremely aware player thats checking off options as quickly as anybody while seeing far into the future . besides great hockey mind has very soft hands ands a very coordinated skater . i put the formula together of size + skating + smarts + hands + as a great additional bonus a temper that makes him a spirited competitor and i wont be surprised at all if he becomes a perrenial allstar . my favorite redwing prospect since datsyuk .
shocking . a smart ass post to match a smart ass avatar picSounds like the perfect prospect.
How did he drop to 6th
There is absolutely nothing special about his offensive game at this point.
Passing is average. Shooting is nothing special.
He's huge. He skates. He's smart.
That's it. That could be enough to make him a solid 2nd pairing defenseman.
Whether or not Seider is worth 6th overall is beside the point.
He's still a universal first-round pick on every list.
And a first round pick - especially a 6'6 one - should look pretty good in this tournament.