Speculation: Ray Shero 'inside track' to succeed GM Bryan Murray

[Nac Mac Feegle]

No doubt. Both he and Alfie left because they wanted to leave. That's life.

....and life sucks sometimes.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

But did he as a coach or did the players underachieve? Murray did nothing to improve the team when they needed it. He finished 4 points lower in the standings. He never even had a losing record as coach.

All those guys coming back from injury was help enough. We went to the 2nd round without a healthy Spezza and Karlsson and I think everyone agreed that we had what we needed.

 

[pt_mck]

Murray needs to relinquish control. There has to be a succession plan.

 

[Kickabrat]

Murray needs to relinquish control. There has to be a succession plan.

Why? Because you say so? Murray doesn't have to do anything you say. He has been given the green light by the owner to do what and when he wants when it comes to succession. Just because you don't know what or when he's planning on doing something doesn't mean there is no plan. It could just be a case of the guy Murray wants is not yet available. We don't know and we are not going to know. Face it, we are just not important enough to be let in on what the team plans on doing. Deal with it.

 

[pt_mck]

Why? Because you say so? Murray doesn't have to do anything you say. He has been given the green light by the owner to do what and when he wants when it comes to succession. Just because you don't know what or when he's planning on doing something doesn't mean there is no plan. It could just be a case of the guy Murray wants is not yet available. We don't know and we are not going to know. Face it, we are just not important enough to be let in on what the team plans on doing. Deal with it.

His cancer can take a turn for the worse at any time. Its all about risk management.

 

[Kickabrat]

His cancer can take a turn for the worse at any time. Its all about risk management.

And he can get into a car accident on his way home from work today.

I have no idea, but if I had to bet, I'd say there is a plan in place if something unexpected happens to Murray. Just because we don't know what it is, doesn't mean there isn't one.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

All those guys coming back from injury was help enough. We went to the 2nd round without a healthy Spezza and Karlsson and I think everyone agreed that we had what we needed.

Who thought spezza and karlsson were gonna come back anywhere near top form.? I would say majority did not.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Why? Because you say so? Murray doesn't have to do anything you say. He has been given the green light by the owner to do what and when he wants when it comes to succession. Just because you don't know what or when he's planning on doing something doesn't mean there is no plan. It could just be a case of the guy Murray wants is not yet available. We don't know and we are not going to know. Face it, we are just not important enough to be let in on what the team plans on doing. Deal with it.

What is this.

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

What is this.

The truth

 

[Holdurbreathe]

The truth

But so many can't handle the truth

 

[Burrowsaurus]

The truth

Lol. Yes. It's a good point. Murray does NOT have to do what we say I'm glad it was said. Because personally I was forgetting that. I was under the pressure that Murray actually HAD to do exactly what we all said. Like he had no choice. He had to do it. Even if people had conflicting ideas. He had to somehow do both. Boy was I wrong.

 

[Stylizer1]

Lol. Yes. It's a good point. Murray does NOT have to do what we say I'm glad it was said. Because personally I was forgetting that. I was under the pressure that Murray actually HAD to do exactly what we all said. Like he had no choice. He had to do it. Even if people had conflicting ideas. He had to somehow do both. Boy was I wrong.

I'm proud of you man.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Lol. Yes. It's a good point. Murray does NOT have to do what we say I'm glad it was said. Because personally I was forgetting that. I was under the pressure that Murray actually HAD to do exactly what we all said. Like he had no choice. He had to do it. Even if people had conflicting ideas. He had to somehow do both. Boy was I wrong.

Takes a big man to admit when he was wrong. Good on you!

 

[FlyingJ]

Why? Because you say so? Murray doesn't have to do anything you say. He has been given the green light by the owner to do what and when he wants when it comes to succession. Just because you don't know what or when he's planning on doing something doesn't mean there is no plan. It could just be a case of the guy Murray wants is not yet available. We don't know and we are not going to know. Face it, we are just not important enough to be let in on what the team plans on doing. Deal with it.

And when that owner is Eugene "any idiot can spend" Melnyk, forgive me for not having confidence in ownership.

I'm sure at least a rough plan is in place if things take a turn for the worse for BM. I suppose I just really think that, after nearly 8 years of Murray as GM, a fresh voice could really benefit this franchise by being able to more objectively evaluate things.

 

[Stylizer1]

And when that owner is Eugene "any idiot can spend" Melnyk, forgive me for not having confidence in ownership.

I'm sure at least a rough plan is in place if things take a turn for the worse for BM. I suppose I just really think that, after nearly 8 years of Murray as GM, a fresh voice could really benefit this franchise by being able to more objectively evaluate things.

That's usually how it goes with Murray.

 

[Super Cake]

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/senators-gm-bryan-murray-i-want-to-keep-going/

 

[Boud]

I honestly do not understand why Murray want's to be GM beyond this season. I'm not questionning his ability to be effective, but doesn't he want to spend some time with his family? Unless he's really anxious to see what's in store for the Sens next season (and I don't see any reason to be). Why not set into an advisor role like he was saying previously for next season? I mean will it really change something if he's GM for one more season since we're not contenders and not close to be either.

 

[BonkTastic]

I honestly do not understand why Murray want's to be GM beyond this season. I'm not questionning his ability to be effective, but doesn't he want to spend some time with his family?

There are a lot of people in that generation who don't know what to do with themselves if they're not working. Having something to wake up to, the feeling that they're still a valuable & contributing person, has lots of value, especially during illness.

Lots of studies out there about failing health among the recently retired, especially among men - people who retire and then have no routine, there's a high incidence of health issues in the immediate 1-2 years after the retirement.

A lot of guys just need the structure & the feeling of being needed/feeling as though they still have something to give.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

There are a lot of people in that generation who don't know what to do with themselves if they're not working. Having something to wake up to, the feeling that they're still a valuable & contributing person, has lots of value, especially during illness.

Lots of studies out there about failing health among the recently retired, especially among men - people who retire and then have no routine, there's a high incidence of health issues in the immediate 1-2 years after the retirement.

A lot of guys just need the structure & the feeling of being needed/feeling as though they still have something to give.

Very true...but I can't help but wonder how the family feels.

If the person I built my life around was going to pass away soon, I'd do everything to hold on tight and never let go. Get in as much quality time as possible and damned well dare death to take him way.

 

[maclean]

There are a lot of people in that generation who don't know what to do with themselves if they're not working. Having something to wake up to, the feeling that they're still a valuable & contributing person, has lots of value, especially during illness.

Lots of studies out there about failing health among the recently retired, especially among men - people who retire and then have no routine, there's a high incidence of health issues in the immediate 1-2 years after the retirement.

A lot of guys just need the structure & the feeling of being needed/feeling as though they still have something to give.

If I could I'd retire tomorrow. No wait, today!

 

[Ice-Tray]

Very true...but I can't help but wonder how the family feels.

If the person I built my life around was going to pass away soon, I'd do everything to hold on tight and never let go. Get in as much quality time as possible and damned well dare death to take him way.

That perspective, while admirable, is often selfish and contrary to the spouse who has already accepted imminent death. They usually don't want to be smothered at all, preferring people to act normal and allow them to live out their time unremarked. The person who is dying wants to do other things, things that don't constantly remind them that they are dying, like family that is constantly buzzing around struggling to spend every waking moment with them because they are dying.

Often when people are going through this they end up living out their last days for their family rather than themselves. They often feel a tremendous amount of guilt towards family for the hurt they are putting on them by dying. This may seem counter-intuitive, but is true.

If Murray wants to spend much of his remaining time with the team that he has helped build, and the people who are probably close to family by now, and certainly providers of an environment that is not all about him dying, then that is what he should do.

The time before certain death should be spent doing everything that person wants, for them, not for those around them that wish to make a last ditch attempt at more together time. Family needs to understand this and accept it. Love the person for who they are and were, and not try and force feed last ditch memories, selfishly taking remaining time for themselves (and by no means do I mean maliciously in the slightest).

These are all normal grieving actions, by the way, I don't mean to slag either side. I have experienced much death and have a little insight on both sides.

It's a sad time, it's a guilty time, and it can often be a selfish time. Whatever makes Murray the happiest is what I support.

Hockey is 'whatever' to me in comparison.

 

[Cosmix]

I honestly do not understand why Murray want's to be GM beyond this season. I'm not questionning his ability to be effective, but doesn't he want to spend some time with his family? Unless he's really anxious to see what's in store for the Sens next season (and I don't see any reason to be). Why not set into an advisor role like he was saying previously for next season? I mean will it really change something if he's GM for one more season since we're not contenders and not close to be either.

My sense is that Murray enjoys being top dog running the team, and if anyone else was appointed GM, then Murray would only be asked for his views but would not be in control. Hockey has been his main focus in life, and sitting st home in a recliner is not something he wants to do. Just as we like to make suggestions regarding trades and draft picks, Murray has real power to do so and will not give it up until forced to do so.

 

[aragorn]

Bryan Murray has been around hockey his entire life, who are we to say that for him being around hockey isn't what makes him the happiest? His kids are all grown I imagine & they have their own lives & raising their own children & his grand children. I imagine he gets to see them quite often anyway. I bet BM is the happiest being around the rink & involved in the hockey operations as long as his health holds out. While I imagine Lee & Dorion do most of the heavy lifting & BM is mostly there for advice it probably still makes him feel good to be a part of it. Good for him & I hope he has many more good days ahead of him.

 

[Stylizer1]

My sense is that Murray enjoys being top dog running the team, and if anyone else was appointed GM, then Murray would only be asked for his views but would not be in control. Hockey has been his main focus in life, and sitting st home in a recliner is not something he wants to do. Just as we like to make suggestions regarding trades and draft picks, Murray has real power to do so and will not give it up until forced to do so.

Or until he hires a coach who will turn him around and stab him in the back to become GM.

 

[Stylizer1]

Bryan Murray has been around hockey his entire life, who are we to say that for him being around hockey isn't what makes him the happiest? His kids are all grown I imagine & they have their own lives & raising their own children & his grand children. I imagine he gets to see them quite often anyway. I bet BM is the happiest being around the rink & involved in the hockey operations as long as his health holds out. While I imagine Lee & Dorion do most of the heavy lifting & BM is mostly there for advice it probably still makes him feel good to be a part of it. Good for him & I hope he has many more good days ahead of him.

I think at the end of the day he deserves to go out as he chooses. I just want a different GM.