TSN: Ray Ferraro: "Matthews is a legit MVP candidate"

[authentic]

Wash away Marners points and Matthews goals and then talk about who’s better.

Matthews is better at literally everything in the game than Marner. Shooting, passing, board play, takeaways, backchecking. Hell if they put Matthews on the pk he’d do it better than Marner.

The gap is growing game by game.

Passing too?! I believe we could leave that one with Marner

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Matthews has 11 goals and 5 assists in 13 games.

Based on those numbers perhaps Matthews can win both the Rocket Richard and the Cy Young awards this year.

Haha you ripped off Anson carter. Matthews can pass well. He just doesn’t think pass and thats good

 

[Suntouchable13]

Haha you ripped off Anson carter. Matthews can pass well. He just doesn’t think pass and thats good

Who is he going to pass to? Marner, not a natural goalscorer. Hyman, with all due respects, has stone hands.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Who is he going to pass to? Marner, not a natural goalscorer. Hyman, with all due respects, has stone hands.

Thats neither here nor there. Hyman gets on pucks,Marner sets up plays and Matthews scores goals. They all do what they do really well. It’s not for comparison. It’s for what works.
Hyman comes away with pucks on his stick in every situation on the wall and gets puck to his linemates consistently. He has great hands and strength and lots of things that make the line work.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Wash away Marners points and Matthews goals and then talk about who’s better.

Matthews is better at literally everything in the game than Marner. Shooting, passing, board play, takeaways, backchecking. Hell if they put Matthews on the pk he’d do it better than Marner.

The gap is growing game by game.

Ok I’ll wash that all away. Everyone in our Canadian division is better except Ottawa ha. Seriously you felt it was upon you to slam another player on the team to hop up your favourite. You think funny

 

[Once]

AM34 has 11 genos already and people are mad he has few assists. The dude is developing into a 200ft machine, laying the body, having fun and putting the team on his back quite often. Some people are never satisfied

 

[Spirit of 67]

AM34 has 11 genos already and people are mad he has few assists. The dude is developing into a 200ft machine, laying the body, having fun and putting the team on his back quite often. Some people are never satisfied

It's absolutely moronic.
Hyman - Matthews - Marner.

Who TF do you want taking the vast majority of the shots?

Some people.

 

[Budz]

I would never argue with anyone who says McDavid is better, but I’d rather have Matthews as the all around better player though.

 

[Budz]

It's absolutely moronic.
Hyman - Matthews - Marner.

Who TF do you want taking the vast majority of the shots?

Some people.

Need a shooter on LW.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Need a shooter on LW.

It would be nice but I might leave ZH there anyway.
An LW for Willy and JT is needed though.

And more importantly, a 3C who PK's well.

 

[JayfromNB1219]

Ok I’ll wash that all away. Everyone in our Canadian division is better except Ottawa ha. Seriously you felt it was upon you to slam another player on the team to hop up your favourite. You think funny

I don’t think it’s a case of favourite or not...yes Mitch PK’s and Auston doesn’t for the most part but if you’re watching 5v5 AM’s defensive game definitely outweighs MM’s maybe cause one is a center and the other isn’t but you can’t deny the difference...AM is back checking helping where he needs to help and generally is always hounding the puck...MM is no slouch across the board granted but AM definitely stands out more defensively than MM does...to say otherwise basically proves you don’t watch the Leafs or are terribly biased

It’s just the truth

 

[Wafflewhipper]

I don’t think it’s a case of favourite or not...yes Mitch PK’s and Auston doesn’t for the most part but if you’re watching 5v5 AM’s defensive game definitely outweighs MM’s maybe cause one is a center and the other isn’t but you can’t deny the difference...AM is back checking helping where he needs to help and generally is always hounding the puck...MM is no slouch across the board granted but AM definitely stands out more defensively than MM does...to say otherwise basically proves you don’t watch the Leafs or are terribly biased

It’s just the truth

Holeeee lol. If you insist

 

[Clark4Ever]

Matthews is playing at another level this season. He is the best two way forward in the NHL at the moment.

McDavid is not as good defensively and Bergeron is not as good offensively.

 

[Romkey]

When do you think he gets the 'C' ?

only way he gets the C is if JT's performance falls off a cliff and Matthews re-signs long term at the end of his current deal

 

[Spirit of 67]

only way he gets the C is if JT's performance falls off a cliff and Matthews re-signs long term at the end of his current deal

Nope.

Old Leafs tradition was to have one captain pass it down to the next.
Watch for that to be re-instated.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I would never argue with anyone who says McDavid is better, but I’d rather have Matthews as the all around better player though.

Never is a long time, you might want to revisit this say a year from now.

I would have agreed with you a year ago but now I'm not sure. Matthews has played at such a high level for quite some time now and shows no signs of letting up. If he stays healthy, watch out.

It's so hard to compare them because they're so different and McDavid will probably always put up more points but Matthews does everything so well ... it's a good thing that I don't need to compare them, I just watch Matthews night after night and so happy that we have him.

 

[Snatcher Demko]

He's certainly having an MVP calibre start but there's a lot of hockey yet to be played. He's also feasted on the Canucks whose D is soft as butter.

I'd certainly put him in the next tier after McDavid.

 

[RealisticLeaf55]

Matthews has been nothing short of elite this season and last.

Deserves a mention for Hart and has a real shot at the rocket

 

[CreeksideStrangler]

Like McDavid, Matthews doesn't need anyone around him to produce... just like Crosby or Ovechkin before them. Marner however does imo.

That is the best measure of an elite player with and without other great players.

 

[34]

How is the Hockey News a Canuck homer?

Btw he was 14th on the TSN list - is that a Canuck homer too...?

Funny enough, this is from the main board, Canucks homers are saying Matthews is barely the 14th best player in the NHL. Apparently the whisky in Vancouver is stronger than 40% !

 

[34]

Matthews has been nothing short of elite this season and last.

Deserves a mention for Hart and has a real shot at the rocket

He was also elite as a teenager when he scored 40 goals in his rookie season. The real deal.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Thats neither here nor there. Hyman gets on pucks,Marner sets up plays and Matthews scores goals. They all do what they do really well. It’s not for comparison. It’s for what works.
Hyman comes away with pucks on his stick in every situation on the wall and gets puck to his linemates consistently. He has great hands and strength and lots of things that make the line work.

It's funny but for years I've been hearing about pairs of forwards working well together. I'm old enough to remember when they used to talk about full lines, three forwards working together and that was the classic combo - a corner man, a playmaker and a finisher. The all-time perfect example for me was Gillies-Trottier-Bossy but I think our top line is just as ideal as an example.

Hyman as a corner man is basically perfect, Gillies was awesome as well.

Trottier was a more rounded player than Marner but as a pure playmaker, Marner is better.

Matthews is a more rounded player then Bossy, as a pure scorer who's better it's too early to tell which is high praise indeed for Matthews as Bossy is one of the greatest snipers ever to play the game.

I love Hyman on that line, I don't think anyone else we have could possibly fit as well, I hope they keep playing together, Hyman gives us a bit of a hometown discount inspiring the others two to do the same down the road and we get to see this trio terrorize the NHL for the next decade.

As Neil Diamond sang - Good times never seemed so good ...

Funny enough, this is from the main board, Canucks homers are saying Matthews is barely the 14th best player in the NHL. Apparently the whisky in Vancouver is stronger than 40% !

The "barely" part is the icing on the cake. I must go find that thread and check it out, sounds like comedy gold.

 

[zeke]

It's funny but for years I've been hearing about pairs of forwards working well together. I'm old enough to remember when they used to talk about full lines, three forwards working together and that was the classic combo - a corner man, a playmaker and a finisher. The all-time perfect example for me was Gillies-Trottier-Bossy but I think our top line is just as ideal as an example.

Hyman as a corner man is basically perfect, Gillies was awesome as well.

Trottier was a more rounded player than Marner but as a pure playmaker, Marner is better.

Matthews is a more rounded player then Bossy, as a pure scorer who's better it's too early to tell which is high praise indeed for Matthews as Bossy is one of the greatest snipers ever to play the game.

I love Hyman on that line, I don't think anyone else we have could possibly fit as well, I hope they keep playing together, Hyman gives us a bit of a hometown discount inspiring the others two to do the same down the road and we get to see this trio terrorize the NHL for the next decade.

As Neil Diamond sang - Good times never seemed so good ...





The "barely" part is the icing on the cake. I must go find that thread and check it out, sounds like comedy gold.

It's funny cuz the accepted best line in hockey is Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak who are all equal partners in that line's success.

On a totally unrelated note, last night for the first time ever we saw a Nylander-Matthews-Marner line, and oh boy did they look hot.

 

[34]

It's funny but for years I've been hearing about pairs of forwards working well together. I'm old enough to remember when they used to talk about full lines, three forwards working together and that was the classic combo - a corner man, a playmaker and a finisher. The all-time perfect example for me was Gillies-Trottier-Bossy but I think our top line is just as ideal as an example.

Hyman as a corner man is basically perfect, Gillies was awesome as well.

Trottier was a more rounded player than Marner but as a pure playmaker, Marner is better.

Matthews is a more rounded player then Bossy, as a pure scorer who's better it's too early to tell which is high praise indeed for Matthews as Bossy is one of the greatest snipers ever to play the game.

I love Hyman on that line, I don't think anyone else we have could possibly fit as well, I hope they keep playing together, Hyman gives us a bit of a hometown discount inspiring the others two to do the same down the road and we get to see this trio terrorize the NHL for the next decade.

As Neil Diamond sang - Good times never seemed so good ...





The "barely" part is the icing on the cake. I must go find that thread and check it out, sounds like comedy gold.

oh yeah, they say Matthews is not a top 20 player in the NHL. The one Canuck fan he is not even a top 100 player. They also say Pettersson is the greatest of all time, better than Gretzky.

 

[Wafflewhipper]

Funny enough, this is from the main board, Canucks homers are saying Matthews is barely the 14th best player in the NHL. Apparently the whisky in Vancouver is stronger than 40% !

Haha that doesn’t surprise me. Matthews is a absolute threat all over the ice to not be easy to play against. He put a hit on last night and i forget who it was. Then he was 10 feet away from it tracking a puck. The other guy was still trying to get his balance. He’s a menace in the nicest way