Proposal: Rasmus Ristolainen. What would we want?

[HogtownSabresfan]

With three years plus years at $5.4 M cap, his value is massive. If people don't realize that, there's no point. Tough, right-hnaded D man with offense.

Why move him? Act getting stale. We need offence badly.

My number one taker? Leafs. Would we have guts to trade there? I say yes.

Ask.

I start with Rasmus Sandin, I want Kadri, a $4.5 M cap hit, good 2nd line centre.

After that I need one more very good young piece. Not sure who. Kapanen and I'm done but doubt Leafs do it. No interest in Nylander. One is enough. A 1st? No scraps like Connor Brown. No throws in like Marleau unless they come with picks.

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[Jagemon]

If you in some mental situation deal Ristolainen you deal him outside your conference if possible. Never to your geographically closest rival..

 

[Goathead]

He’s better much better this year in my eyes i’d be hesitant to move him (before this year I would have been aboard). Let the team around him get better, reduce minutes and he’ll be a keeper.

Edit: Dahlin will over take him soon let that happen and bring in some better 3rd pairings and the weight will be lifted off his shoulders. That’s when we will see the real Risto me thinks

 

[davej0122]

I have no interest in actively shopping him... If a GM says something along the lines of Taylor Hall for Risto.... then yes all day...

But I dont think trying to use Risto to fix a temporary hole in secondary scoring is smart. It just robs Peter to pay Paul. We will need to find another Dman to take his place.... Especially when our pipeline is more plush in offense then D at this point.

 

[ZZamboni]

Meh ... I’d keep him. So any team that wants him would have to overpay (if we are playing armchair GM).

 

[Derg12]

Would rather keep him. Overpayment? Ok, I'm listening.

 

[HaNotsri]

It would leave a hole on our blueline that could take years to fill. Not interested.

I don’t think his value is huge. Probably roster player+prospect+pick.

 

[Yatzhee]

Marner.
Yes, it's that simple really, you say Toronto, I say ok, Marner.

 

[OkimLom]

Nylander + Risto for J.Faulk + Aho

 

[Gabrielor]

An overpayment we can't possibly say no to.

 

[Reddawg]

We have to keep him unless the package offered can’t possibly be said no to. Losing Risto opens a huge hole that we have no natural means of filling, so making a similar trade to O’Reilly would be beyond devastating. I’m talking young, outstanding forwards that help immediately. Couldn’t care less about more picks right now, if Risto is moved the return needs to step in and help tremendously right now.

 

[MackAttack26]

Risto + for a better D is the only deal I could understand. Which isn't happening. You don't trade him and leave your RHD situation as Bogosian-Nelson-Whatever LD on his wrong side.

 

[truthbluth]

I am not an opponent of dealing Risto, but as others have said, you can't trade him for his actual value, i.e., that of a 2nd pairing, PP/PK specialist (I'm not going to go 7 rounds about this, so let's just focus on the question at hand). But if somebody values him as a franchise D, then yeah, you can trade him. But this can't be a 4 quarters for a dollar kind of thing. A 1 for 1, or 2 for 1, where 1 of the pieces is pretty close to Risto's actual value. Risto for Dougie Hamilton and Martin Necas, would be an example of that. From the Leafs, it's Marner or no deal. I might even say Marner plus, because it's in division. Even then I struggle with that because top line winger isn't as valuable to me as a 1b center. There aren't many Risto deals out there that I like anymore. Draisaitl plus one of Edmonton's 9 3rd pairing defensemen.

Risto is likely overvalued by some in the league, and so I say a Risto deal isn't as unlikely as some would say, but as others have said, it would be very difficult to replace some of what he does.

 

[stokes84]

I think you could get good value for him, and I also think moving him would be addition by subtraction. He plays more than anyone, and when he plays, we typically get outplayed.

If you can get a 1st round pick or a top 6 forward, I would move him. Understanding people value him due to his position, I don’t expect that to happen.

 

[Reddawg]

I think you could get good value for him, and I also think moving him would be addition by subtraction. He plays more than anyone, and when he plays, we typically get outplayed.

If you can get a 1st round pick or a top 6 forward, I would move him. Understanding people value him due to his position, I don’t expect that to happen.

If Risto goes, Bogosian becomes our #1 RHD. Think about that for a couple seconds. He needs to be getting #3D minutes instead of the top pairing minutes he's been playing for years. That's slowly starting to happen...cutting him loose now makes the team worse, not better. Unless the deal is unimaginably good, and can you see any other team in the league giving up something unimaginable for Risto?

 

[stokes84]

If Risto goes, Bogosian becomes our #1 RHD. Think about that for a couple seconds. He needs to be getting #3D minutes instead of the top pairing minutes he's been playing for years. That's slowly starting to happen...cutting him loose now makes the team worse, not better. Unless the deal is unimaginably good, and can you see any other team in the league giving up something unimaginable for Risto?

One step back to take two steps forward.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

One step back to take two steps forward.

Arguing for the tank?

 

[OkimLom]

If Risto goes, Bogosian becomes our #1 RHD. Think about that for a couple seconds. He needs to be getting #3D minutes instead of the top pairing minutes he's been playing for years. That's slowly starting to happen...cutting him loose now makes the team worse, not better. Unless the deal is unimaginably good, and can you see any other team in the league giving up something unimaginable for Risto?

Why do you think that trading Risto automatically means Bogo gets slotted to the "#1 RHD"? Buffalo could do a swap of RHD. They could acquire a RHD better than Bogo in the trade. You may be able to find a RHD in a trade that is the victim of numbers as could the case be on a team like Nashville.

 

[truthbluth]

Imagine how much better our situation would be if Murray had drafted McAvoy instead of Nylander.

 

[Reddawg]

Why do you think that trading Risto automatically means Bogo gets slotted to the "#1 RHD"? Buffalo could do a swap of RHD. They could acquire a RHD better than Bogo in the trade. You may be able to find a RHD in a trade that is the victim of numbers as could the case be on a team like Nashville.

I'm saying without knowing what's coming back in a hypothetical package. Our right side becomes Bogo, Beaulieu, Nelson, barring a RHD being traded to us either in a Risto deal or something else.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Imagine how much better our situation would be if Murray had drafted McAvoy instead of Nylander.

I lie awake at night wondering the same thing.

 

[Jim Bob]

I'm in the "move Risto if it is a deal you can't turn down" camp.

I'm thinking something like Risto+_____ for Trouba (assuming the Jets have a huge issue re-signing him this summer)+Roslovic.

Risto for a draft pick makes me laugh. The only way you move Risto is if it makes the Sabres roster better immediately.

 

[OkimLom]

I'm saying without knowing what's coming back in a hypothetical package. Our right side becomes Bogo, Beaulieu, Nelson, barring a RHD being traded to us either in a Risto deal or something else.

Gotcha, I didn't read it that way.

 

[is the answer jesus]

I'm in the "move Risto if it is a deal you can't turn down" camp.

I'm thinking something like Risto+_____ for Trouba (assuming the Jets have a huge issue re-signing him this summer)+Roslovic.

Risto for a draft pick makes me laugh. The only way you move Risto is if it makes the Sabres roster better immediately.

I've brought this up in the past and I think it could make sense. Particularly in this coming offseason. Winnipeg is staring at an impending cap crunch this offseason with Connor and Laine both needing new deals. Trouba is an RFA as well and I'm sure most of us have seen how tough negotations have been between Trouba's side and the Jets throughout the years.
That's the type of Ristolainen trade that actually makes sense. Trading him for a draft pick alone would be moronic.

 

[Jim Bob]

I've brought this up in the past and I think it could make sense. Particularly in this coming offseason. Winnipeg is staring at an impending cap crunch this offseason with Connor and Laine both needing new deals. Trouba is an RFA as well and I'm sure most of us have seen how tough negotations have been between Trouba's side and the Jets throughout the years.
That's the type of Ristolainen trade that actually makes sense. Trading him for a draft pick alone would be moronic.

The Jets may be the second most interesting cap situation to watch between now and the start of next season behind the Leafs.

Jets UFAs:

Tyler Myers RHD
Ben Chiarot LHD
Brandon Tanev LW/RW

Jets RFAs with arbitration rights:

Jacob Trouba RHD
Andrew Copp C/LW
Joe Morrow RHD
Nicolas Petan C
Laurent Brossoit G

Jets RFAs without arbitration rights:

Patrik Laine LW/RW
Kyle Connor LW
Brendan Lemieux LW/RW

Winnipeg Jets - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

And they have 10 players signed for next season at a total cap hit of roughly $55.6M.