Player Discussion Rasmus Dahlin Part 2- D (1st Overall, 2018, Frölunda HC, SHL)

[sabrebuild]

What sort of quantum mechanics did you use for this equation?

It's a foregone conclusion that Dahlin is going to earn power play time. He's going to be their best offensive defenseman from Day 1.

And maybe it's just me, but 50pts would not be crazy for someone who's being compared to some of the best of all time. Myers, Werenski, and Gostisbehere all pretty much did it and none of them received half as much hype as Dahlin. It just requires the correct deployment. 50pts is an amazing season, but what's the limit for a player who has no precedent in today's game? He's better at this age than any defenseman currently playing in the NHL was. Makes sense then that he could be a better rookie than any of them were as well.

He probably was using NHLe, it breaks down what points scored in different leagues translate to the nhl.

Biggest difference between the guys you listed and Dahlin is the team he is joining. Much better squads.

He will be a beast, but the production might not be crazy to start with.

 

[darcyRegier]

You know that argument can never hold up and frankly its disappointing that my previous post got deleted.

Like I said before, Ekblad had 39 points in his rookie season does that put him near the same level as Orr?

Myers had 48 points his rookie season and hasnt come close since.

So what exactly does Orr's rookie season having 41 points tell me?

Its telling you that you're expectations are way too high for a 18 year old who is going to be forced to play much harder minutes than Myers or Ekblad did when they were rookies. Temper those expectations

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[sufferer]

Nice to see our Franchise Savior (2.0) waverunning across the Atlantic. I guess the Pegulas really have become penny-pinchers.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Nice to see our Franchise Savior (2.0) waverunning across the Atlantic. I guess the Pegulas really have become penny-pinchers.

I hope he makes in time for the Prospects Tournament.

 

[Waterfowlist]

Its telling you that you're expectations are way too high for a 18 year old who is going to be forced to play much harder minutes than Myers or Ekblad did when they were rookies. Temper those expectations

Why do you assume he will play tough minutes?

Did Risto, Scandella, and Bogo get traded?

As a rookie, Myers led the team in ATOI at 23:44 and led the team in EV TOI and SH TOI. It’s a myth to suggest he played easy minutes.

 

[MayDay]

Hmmm........

 

[OkimLom]

Hmmm........

#TheSweedishJob

 

[MayDay]

#TheSweedishJob

I’m just saying...did anybody check to see what Rasmus has got in that bag there?

 

[darcyRegier]

Why do you assume he will play tough minutes?

Did Risto, Scandella, and Bogo get traded?

As a rookie, Myers led the team in ATOI at 23:44 and led the team in EV TOI and SH TOI. It’s a myth to suggest he played easy minutes.

Dahlin is currently the #3 dman whether Bogo magically plays over 60 games or not

 

[Nordiques1979]

One thing I noted is the kid need to bulk up, I know he won't be a hitting machine, but he's a bit too light. Dunno what was Risto weight in his first year with Buffalo?

 

[sabres4ever]

Hmmm........

So, the Holy Hand Grenades DO exist!

 

[HaNotsri]

One thing I noted is the kid need to bulk up, I know he won't be a hitting machine, but he's a bit too light. Dunno what was Risto weight in his first year with Buffalo?

He actually uses his body really well, some great hits. 0.75 hits per game and 35th among dmen when it comes to total hits while missing 11 games. It’s far from NHL numbers but the game is very different, wouldn’t be effective to throw 2-3 hits per game here.

 

[joshjull]

 

[vcv]

 

[Sansbacon]

I didn’t get a good look at his face there, but I’m pretty sure he was sleeping

 

[WeDislikeEich]

 

[sabrebuild]

Just smooth. That body control was telling. A ton of control to have his shoulders square to the corner for a second, and then the torque to draw the defender into reaching.

Simple, but extremely impressive.

 

[BananaSquad]

One thing I noted is the kid need to bulk up, I know he won't be a hitting machine, but he's a bit too light. Dunno what was Risto weight in his first year with Buffalo?

Man who cares, this league nowadays doesn’t matter how big you are. Kid will get there, but really it won’t impact him at all this year on how good he will be. McDavid looked like a 9th grader as a rookie.

 

[Tatanka]

McDavid didn’t play defense. Size and strength help.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

 

[Dingo44]

 

[Slangston]

Got it over the plate.

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

I do not want Dahlin to do anything that his body that can adversely affect his skating style. I could care less about "strength" when hes an elite athlete. Hes plenty strong, we dont need anyone to try and change anything about his game. Let him be. He became a superstar prospect by doing what he has, I dont think he needs to listen to anyone.

 

[Jim Bob]

I do not want Dahlin to do anything that his body that can adversely affect his skating style. I could care less about "strength" when hes an elite athlete. Hes plenty strong, we dont need anyone to try and change anything about his game. Let him be. He became a superstar prospect by doing what he has, I dont think he needs to listen to anyone.

Yes and no.

Yes, he doesn't need to bulk up to the point that he isn't the kind of player that has gotten him to this point.

No in that he does need to learn and I guarantee you that there are things that he will need to improve to be the kind of pro that we expect him to be for the next decade.

The best never rest on their laurels. Just look at all the NBA guys that worked with Tim Grover after they made it so that they could stay on top.