Raptors Discussion: Raptors name Nick Nurse as new head coach

[SeaOfBlue]

What happened to those picks we got in the past 2-3-4 yrs? Didn’t we get picks in Bargnani trade?

I guess I haven’t been following closely.

Where did all our picks go?

Became Poeltl and cash essentially. Used one of the picks to dump Novak, who was a salary dump in the Bargnani trade. The other was to select someone who was traded right away for cash.

 

[Eyedea]

What happened to those picks we got in the past 2-3-4 yrs? Didn’t we get picks in Bargnani trade?

I guess I haven’t been following closely.

Where did all our picks go?

It was a first and two seconds. The first turned into Poeltl, one second was packaged with Novak for a waived contract (Diante Garrett), and the other second was traded for cash.

edit: guess I should've refreshed

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

Right, and we got OG for Vasquez which was a dream scenario. Chances of the 29th pick making an impact? Certainly not as high.

Draft picks are extremely valuable these days especially with the inflated contracts that get dished out
Let your scouts do their job

 

[Eyedea]

Draft picks are extremely valuable these days especially with the inflated contracts that get dished out
Let your scouts do their job

Well there's two values there. One is to actually supplement your roster if you have an untradeable player. The other is to actually use it to get rid of dead salary. Raptors haven't been the only ones to take the latter scenario.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

Well there's two values there. One is to actually supplement your roster if you have an untradeable player. The other is to actually use it to get rid of dead salary. Raptors haven't been the only ones to take the latter scenario.

It happens. Very few good/great organizations have done it though

 

[Dr.Funk]

Man I'd love to get a pick here and grab Grayson Allen

 

[trellaine201]

Kinda embarrassing for the scouts of TO. No picks.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Kinda embarrassing for the scouts of TO. No picks.

No picks and a maxed out roster. Very nice work by our brilliant GM.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

No picks and a maxed out roster. Very nice work by our brilliant GM.

I'd have no problem with this if we were championship contenders
Instead we have a maxed out roster, no draft picks that got swept in back to back seasons in the 2nd round
Our best player is 32 and our 2nd best player is 29 soon

 

[trellaine201]

Ya were pretty hooped for next year. I realize there is a lot of time between now and then but I’m having doubts much will change

 

[Eyedea]

The lack of respect OG and Siakam get here is sad.

Actually, the lack of respect the Raps youth get here is sad. Reserve your "maxed out" notions for those 2014 Nets.

 

[stickty111]

No picks and a maxed out roster. Very nice work by our brilliant GM.

Our GM has been very good. Sorry if you cant see the facts.

 

[A1LeafNation]

...so who did we end up drafting?

 

[stickty111]

We have a playoff calibre team with some good young talent as well. The work our GM has done is great, and needs to be continued.

 

[capfit9]

likely to buy a 2nd round pick

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

...so who did we end up drafting?

Nobody.
Masai had to cover up his mistake of locking up DeMarre Carroll to 4 years, 58 million by attaching a 1st round pick to unload him

 

[topched]

I'd have no problem with this if we were championship contenders
Instead we have a maxed out roster, no draft picks that got swept in back to back seasons in the 2nd round
Our best player is 32 and our 2nd best player is 29 soon

I mean, we ARE championship contenders. Eastern Conference champs & b2b2b2b playoff appearances including a conference finals. If you don't consider us contenders its not because of Masai its because you believe (as many do) that there are really only 2 teams in contention GSW & Team Lebron.

 

[The Nemesis]

I mean, we ARE championship contenders. Eastern Conference champs & b2b2b2b playoff appearances including a conference finals. If you don't consider us contenders its not because of Masai its because you believe (as many do) that there are really only 2 teams in contention GSW & Team Lebron.

Clearly the NBA has 28 awful GMs, 1 good one, and 1 figurehead for LeBron. I mean, dur.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

I mean, we ARE championship contenders. Eastern Conference champs & b2b2b2b playoff appearances including a conference finals. If you don't consider us contenders its not because of Masai its because you believe (as many do) that there are really only 2 teams in contention GSW & Team Lebron.

Your first and last sentences contradict each other
Team LeBron was so great that he barely snuck by a Celtics team without their 2 best players (Irving and Hayward) in 7 games
Team LeBron was so great that he barely beat a "weaker" Pacers team in 7 games
GSW is so unbeatable that they barely beat a Rockets' in 7 games with CP3 missing game 6 and 7

Meanwhile, the greatest Raptors team in franchise history couldn't even win 1 game.

Just seems like excuses to me

 

[A1LeafNation]

Nobody.
Masai had to cover up his mistake of locking up DeMarre Carroll to 4 years, 58 million by attaching a 1st round pick to unload him

What kind of f*** tard fires the coach and has this much salary tied up in a mediocre team with no picks..

 

[topched]

Your first and last sentences contradict each other
Team LeBron was so great that he barely snuck by a Celtics team without their 2 best players (Irving and Hayward) in 7 games
Team LeBron was so great that he barely beat a "weaker" Pacers team in 7 games
GSW is so unbeatable that they barely beat a Rockets' in 7 games with CP3 missing game 6 and 7

Meanwhile, the greatest Raptors team in franchise history couldn't even win 1 game.

Just seems like excuses to me

I just don't believe you throw away 88 games worth of success over a poor series performance. The reality is the roster as constructed is probably the 5th-7th best team in the league and a virtual lock for home court advantage in the playoffs once again. There are 20 GMs that are desperately trying to get to a point that they can say that.

Yes would I like to see Masai find a way to make additions to this roster, but I don't think you can blame Masai in anyway for what he's built like you did in your previous post

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

What kind of **** tard fires the coach and has this much salary tied up in a mediocre team with no picks..

Our GM knows he has little flexibility with this roster so he has to resort to firing the coach to show that he's doing something

He's actually trying to unload Norman Powell's dreadful contract that he signed 8 months ago so he can create some flexibility to lock up FVV long-term.

 

[topched]

Our GM knows he has little flexibility with this roster so he has to resort to firing the coach to show that he's doing something

He's actually trying to unload Norman Powell's dreadful contract that he signed 8 months ago so he can create some flexibility to lock up FVV long-term.

If I look at the roster right now, I don't think the Powell deal was the worst move (not great though), I think it's Ibaka's presence & contract. For the first couple years of success we all agreed that they needed to create a Big 3 with Kyle and Demar. "Settling" for Ibaka as the solution was the wrong move, I didn't like it much then but was hopeful I was wrong.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

I just don't believe you throw away 88 games worth of success over a poor series performance. The reality is the roster as constructed is probably the 5th-7th best team in the league and a virtual lock for home court advantage in the playoffs once again. There are 20 GMs that are desperately trying to get to a point that they can say that.

Yes would I like to see Masai find a way to make additions to this roster, but I don't think you can blame Masai in anyway for what he's built like you did in your previous post

Well Masai has made plenty of mistakes so he does deserve blame

This is not an anomaly though. 3 years ago, we got swept by the Wizards, 2 years ago we took Cleveland to 6 but keep it mind we got obliterated in our 4 losses, and we've now been swept in back to back seasons.

 

[Glenn Isildur Healy]

If I look at the roster right now, I don't think the Powell deal was the worst move (not great though), I think it's Ibaka's presence & contract. For the first couple years of success we all agreed that they needed to create a Big 3 with Kyle and Demar. "Settling" for Ibaka as the solution was the wrong move, I didn't like it much then but was hopeful I was wrong.

I agree with that. I think the Powell deal is bad but the Ibaka deal is ugly. I can't see us unloading Ibaka without having to attach a draft pick or two.