Rantanen vs Laine

[Spilot23]

84 points at 20 years old doesn't make you a star player?


Good lord you are insufferable.

Please don’t pay attention to him. We (people that actually watch the guy play not the zeke stats) know that Rants is a star but Dom is probably one of the biggest Rantanen doubter but will say that Point is a top 10 C so..

 

[Peggy]

Obviously just stats. I knew his response would be some BS analytics when he said Rantanen doesn't even have a dimension.

Yes advanced stats can be helpful, but when it is literally the only thing you pay attention to it can skew your analysis of players a little bit.

You don't even need advanced stats in the debate

Laine is more dangerous on the ice than rant just because of his shot alone

44 goals >29
And this is without playing with Scheifele

While rant plays with MacKinnon

 

[Luminiferous]

I take Rantanen.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Rantanen is clearly the better player now. He was already a PPG player last year but still had room for improvement. Now it seems like those issues have been addressed and he looks better than ever. Laine really has to step it up if he is going to be better than a 90 point all around winger.

 

[devbouz12]

Laine looks like a goat, but isn't the goat.

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Rantanen now and I think that's pretty clear. I'd probably go Laine future though.

 

[Royal Thunder]

Rantanen easily. How the hell is Laine close, let alone winning this?!? Most overrated player in the league by a mile, if he can't get his shot off he doesn't contribute shit

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

Rantanen easily. How the hell is Laine close, let alone winning this?!? Most overrated player in the league by a mile, if he can't get his shot off he doesn't contribute ****

Because Laine is younger and one of the best Goalscorers in the league.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

If you could take either player for the next decade, this is Laine easily

 

[Peggy]

Rantanen easily. How the hell is Laine close, let alone winning this?!? Most overrated player in the league by a mile, if he can't get his shot off he doesn't contribute ****

That shot is the best in the league tho

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Rantanen easily. How the hell is Laine close, let alone winning this?!? Most overrated player in the league by a mile, if he can't get his shot off he doesn't contribute ****

Rantanen doesn’t contribute shit anyway though.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I’m watching rantanen play right now and all I see is his team getting pinned in their own end a lot and Rantanen getting minor penalties

 

[Tralfamadore]

I’m watching rantanen play right now and all I see is his team getting pinned in their own end a lot and Rantanen getting minor penalties

Not his best game for sure.

 

[Tralfamadore]

Rantanen doesn’t contribute **** anyway though.

Considering he's 2nd in the league for points right now this is a pretty silly thing to say.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Considering he's 2nd in the league for points right now this is a pretty silly thing to say.

He still doesn’t have a 5v5 goal, and he’s one of the worst possession players on the avs

 

[Tralfamadore]

He still doesn’t have a 5v5 goal, and he’s one of the worst possession players on the avs

Games can be won on the powerplay too.

Possession stats don't really interest me. I've watched every Avs game this year and outside of this Canes game Mikko has been the best Avs player.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

as this game is showing, mackinnon and landeskog dont need rantanen

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Games can be won on the powerplay too.

Possession stats don't really interest me. I've watched every Avs game this year and outside of this Canes game Mikko has been the best Avs player.

watching the games tampas best player has arguably been cedric paquette, does that make him an elite player?

 

[Tralfamadore]

watching the games tampas best player has arguably been cedric paquette, does that make him an elite player?

Is he tied for 2nd in the league for points?

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Lol this crusade against Rantanen is quite hilarious to see

 

[Tralfamadore]

With MacKinnon's 3 points against Carolina, Mikko now slips to just 3rd in the league. Dom may have been right after all.

EDIT: Rantanen picked up a point on the MacKinnon goal so he is now tied for 2nd with Nate.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Is he tied for 2nd in the league for points?

no but hes been a way better possession guy than rantanen (like night and day)

 

[Cousin Eddie]

He still doesn’t have a 5v5 goal, and he’s one of the worst possession players on the avs

Please don't call shot attempt stats possession.

Also Rantanen is a positive relative corsi for player this year.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Please don't call shot attempt stats possession.

Also Rantanen is a positive relative corsi for player this year.

hes 3rd worst on the avalanche in rel xgf% for forwards who have played all of their games

 

[Tralfamadore]

no but hes been a way better possession guy than rantanen (like night and day)

Who the f*** cares?

You're actually destroying your own argument here. Paquette has 1 point this season yet apparently is a much better posession player than Rantanen who has 13 points.

I feel like possession stats are used by people who are too lazy to actually watch games. I get that you did watch today's game and unfortunately Mikko had a tough outing.