Ranking the best non-hof defensemen

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  1. canucks4ever

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    How would you rank these non-hall of fame defenseman from best to worst.

    Jeff Brown
    Phil Housley
    Steve Duchesne
    Gary Suter
    Kevin Hatcher
    James Patrick
    Reed Larsson
    Carol Vadnais
    Sergie Zubov
    Sergie Gonchar
     
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    It's too early to put Zubov or Gonchar on that list as they aren't eligible I believe.

    also at first glance I would add Paul Reinhart and Doug Wilson to that list and there are some other guys who are better than the weakest guy on that list which is probably Jeff Brown or Carol Vadnais.

    From the guys listed it's hard not to put Housley and Suter at the top

    Housley
    Suter


    Duschene
    Hatcher
    Patrick

    Larson
    Vadnais
    Brown
     
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    Zubov
    Suter
    Gonchar
    Housley
    Patrick
    Hatcher
    Vadnais
    Duchesne
    Larson
    Brown
     
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    I intentionally left out defensive defenseman like Brad Mcrimmon, Derian Hatcher, Bill White and Adam Foote. I also feel that Doug Wilson is a clear step above these guys, he's on the Rob Blake-Larry Murphy level.
     
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    Zubov
    Housley
    Suter
    Gonchar
    Vadnais
    Hatcher
    Larsson
    Patrick
    Duchesne
    Brown
     
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    I was gonna say that I would put Derian Hatcher in over Kevin Hatcher.

    I wouldn't say that Doug Wilson is above Sergei Zubov.

    What about Craig Hartsburg ?

    I agree with Hardyvan123 about Paul Reinhart and Doug Wilson I would include them.

    As for your list:

    Zubov and Housley
    Suter
    Duchesne and Gonchar
    Hatcher
    The rest
     
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    Someone like Eric Desjardins would rank pretty favorably on this list.
     
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    I would rank him over everyone on the list.
     
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    I'll go with Zubov or Suter.

    edit: Or maybe Desjardins.
     
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    I guess pat stapleton and carl brewer are other playesr that could have been added, it just goes to show that defenseman have a harder time entering the HOF. Are players like Zubov, Suter, Wilson and Stapleton any worse than forwards like cicarelli, joe mullen, laparde, duff, steve shutt, bill barber and other mediocre forwards than sneak into the hall of fame.
     
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    Brian Rafalski could be included as well. Though he is better than any dman mentioned so far in this thread.
     
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    Zubov?
    Suter?
    Desjardins?
    Tremblay?
    Stapleton?
    Brewer?
    Wilson?
    Hartsburg?
    McCrimmon?
    White?
    Hatcher?
    Foote?

    ...and those are just the ones that are slam-dunk, no-questions-asked better.
     
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    Stapleton was good, but White was even better.
     
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    Bobby Baun, Carl Brewer, JC Tremblay, Brad McCrimmon and Kevin Lowe are names that come to mind immediately.

    Others:
    Teppo Numminen
    Mike Ramsey
    Terry Harper
    Charlie Huddy
    Wade Redden
    Glen Wesley
    Flash Hollett
    Jean-Guy Talbot
    Calle Johansson
    Phil Russell
    Don Awrey
    Randy Carlyle
    Bob Murray
    Gus Mortson
    Warren Godfrey
    Pat Egan
    Hal Laycoe
    Doug Mohns

    Some of these guys are obviously not in the same level as the aforementioned names in this thread but they were solid above average players that often get overlooked.
     
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    ..Bill White, Pat Stapleton, Bob Goldham, Doug Mohns, Don Awrey, Dallas Smith
     
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    can't believe how many people are pouting zubov on their lists
     
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    I would say Ciccarelli's 608 goals put him well above the "mediocre" range, though I see your point and I agree.

    Not Zubov.

    Not Zubov.
     
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    Top 5:

    1) Zubov
    2) Housley
    3) Suter
    4) Patrick
    5) Gonchar
     
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    Not to be a little to Chicago, but Stapleton and White were just terrific together. Watch that 1972 series and you'll see.

    And Wilson, man could he play!
     
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    ..Bob Goldham..Sawchuk`s 2nd Goalie...One of the finest Defensive Defenseman ever..Criminally underrated`..
     
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    Ted Lindsay personally said close to that very thing to me recently.
     

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