Ranking NHL Teams By Forwards

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  1. Larry Fisher Registered User

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    We've had fun debating the goaltenders and defence, but now let the real debating begin with the forwards. Which Which NHL teams have the best — and the worst — forwards? Here's how I have them ranked heading into the 2019-20 season: https://thehockeywriters.com/ranking-nhl-teams-by-forwards/

    Agree or disagree?
     
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    Isles finished top 5 last year, rankings have our offense 26, defense 20, goaltending 21. Swapped Brassard for Flip, Lehner for Varlamov.
     
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    I don't understand the 20th defense ranking but I definitely understand our forward group being ranked in the bottom 10.
     
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    Sharks tied for the lead in the West in goals last year, and are ranked 25th?!?!

    Pavelski isn't that much of a loss. This is an embarrassing ranking.
     
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  5. Viqsi where we're going we won't need eyes to see

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    Below 25th. Called it.

    Are you prepared to admit your bias yet? Or are you still incapable of describing why you make the calls you do?
     
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    Fine with that too, was just waiting to comment on the entirety after seeing it all. Defense was super odd.
     
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    Jesus, rough like the previous two.

    It has Dylan Gambrell as San Jose's 2C for crying out loud.
     
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    The guys has the f***ing Sharks at 25th and Gambrell as the 2C. It's clear he/they don't have a clue.
     
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    Wow. That's pretty impressive. I mean, I didn't think we'd get the most shafted in the forward rankings (there's so many other targets), but that takes talent.
     
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    Pavelski isn't that much of a loss? He lead the Sharks in goals last year and has lead the team in goals 5 out of the last 6 years.

    I would have the Sharks much higher (10 spots?) but your comment about Pavelski not being much of a loss is equally as embarrassing.

    Are the Preds too high to anyone else? I like the Avalanche and Jets just from the Central more than the Preds forwards and both are lower.
     
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    And maybe the Blues. I just noticed where they are ranked. I'd have the Preds 4th in the Central, not 4th in the entire league. Maybe I'm way off though.
     
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    Florida at 16 is laughable.
     
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    That's surprisingly low. Even if the OP did factor in losing Pavelski, that would drop them a handful of spots from like 6th or 7th to 10th or 11th or whatever, not all the way down to 25th.
     
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    Montreal and the Sharks should be higher. Dallas should be lower. Not bad overall though
     
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    Dylan Gambrell is 23 years old. He has played 13 NHL games including playoffs.

    This guy said that Dylan Gambrell was the San Jose Sharks’ 2nd line center.
     
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    Michael Rasmussen as the Red Wings #2C? The dude isn't even a lock to make the roster now that he can go to GR...
     
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    Solid top 5. I agree with others. Sharks should be around 15th.
     
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    I meant to imply that losing Pavelski shouldn't drop a team that tied for most goals in their conference last year to the 25th best forward unit. Though I do expect regression from Pavs (would have expected some even if he re-signed).
     
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    I need to learn to take these with a grain of salt, tbh. Not many can truly evaluate every team in the league appropriately.
     
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    Yeah, the Defense ranking was completely all over the place. Chicago over Washington AND NYI? It's just bizarre.
     
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    That third line will be a work in progress but if two of the younger wingers click with Brassard, then obviously the Islanders' forwards would be on the rise. The top two lines are solid, not spectacular, and the fourth line is one of the league's best. So much depends on what becomes of that third line.
     
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    With the defence ranking, a commenter here hit the nail on the head. He was responding to Vegas' ranking: "Vegas' D is a product of their play. Judging them on individual merits will cause rankings like this despite them playing a lot better than 29th as a unit."

    Exactly and precisely. These rankings were heavily weighted on talent level and Vegas was negatively impacted by that. As were the Islanders. Those groups get the job done, but they don't jump off the page at you. They are better on the ice as a unit than on paper as individuals.
     
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    You didn't just lose Pavelski. You also lost Thornton (as of today), Nyquist and Donskoi. And a lot of your offence comes from your defence, which was ranked No. 1 yesterday. This ranking is the forwards, not the offence as a whole. San Jose's current forward group is not a strength for that team.
     
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    I mean, y'all get more scoring from the backend than any other team with both Karlsson and Burns. Losing Pavelski and Nyquist with Thornton still uncertain doesn't help. Sharks strength isn't in their forwards.
     
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    Where would you have Columbus' forwards ranked?
     

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