Rank your team's top 10

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  1. PhoPhan

    PhoPhan Registered User

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    ...based on this system: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=88981

    Rank...Player...Potential...Probability

    1) David LeNeveu...8.5...8
    2) Blake Wheeler...8...6
    3) Keith Ballard...8...6
    4) Jakub Koreis...6...7
    5) Joe Callahan...6.5...6.5
    6) Tyler Redenbach...7...5.5
    7) Kiel McLeod...7...5
    8) Lance Monych...6.5...5
    9) Matt Jones...6...6
    10) Martin Podlesak...6...5.5
     
  2. Teemu

    Teemu Trick question?

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    The blackhawks page has been long-neglected, so I'm gonna make my own top ten

    1. Cam Barker 8.5, 7.5
    2. Anton Babchuk 8, 7
    3. Brent Seabrook, 7.5, 8
    4. Pavel Vorobiev, 8, 7
    5. James Wisniewski, 8, 6
    6. Corey Crawford, 7.5, 7.5
    7. Dave Bolland, 7.5, 7.5
    8. Igor Radulov, 7, 7
    9. Michael Leighton, 7, 6
    10. Ryan Garlock, 7, 6
     
  3. The Jerk*

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    yeah, good thread...someone familiar with St. Louis please do, that's even more neglected then the Blackhawk page...
     
  4. Jason MacIsaac

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    Zach Pairse : 8.......8.5
    Ari Ahoenn : 8.......7
    Travis Zajac : 7.5......7
    Alexander Suglobov : 7.5......6
    Petr Vrana : 7......8.5
     
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    1. Cam Ward 8.5 8.5
    2. Andrew Ladd 9 7.5
    3. Danny Richmond 8 6.5
    4. Magnus Kahnberg 7.5 7
    5. Matej Trojovsky 6.5 7.5
    6. Martin Vagner 7 6.5
    7. Chad LaRose 6.5 6
    8. Kevin Nastiuk 6 6.5
    9. Shay Stephenson 5.5 8
    10. Magnus Akerlund 8 5


    That's my Top 10 Carolina Hurricanes prospects.
     
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    Just a question: How can a player have a higher probability than Potential?
     
  7. Big McLargehuge

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    1. Evgeni Malkin...9.5...7.5 (I'd rank Ovechkin a 9.5 and 9 for the record)
    2. Marc-Andre Fleury...9...8.5
    3. Ryan Whitney...8...7.5
    4. Noah Welch...7.5...7.5
    5. Johannes Salmonsson...8...6
    6. Sergei Anshakov...8...6.5
    7. Maxime Talbot...7...9
    8. Colby Armstrong...7...7
    9. Andy Chiodo...7...7
    10. Michal Sivek...7.5...5
     
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  8. Samkow

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    1.Pascal Leclaire-8-7
    2.Alex PIcard-8-6
    3.Dan Fritiche-7.5-8
    4.Aaron Johnson-7-7.5
    5.Adam Pineault-8-5
    6.Kyle Wharton-6.5-8.5
    7.Jokaim Lindstrom-6.5-7
    8.Ole-Kristin Tollefson-6.5-7
    9.Dimitri Kosmachev-7-6.5
    10.Arsi Piispanen-8-4
     
  9. Moskau

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    Depends on the player.

    Take Dan Paille for example.

    Probably 7.5 Potential, but he's a hard worker and his Junior game has NHL written all over it. Therefore the probality that he lives up to his 7.5 Potential is very high, 8-8.5 or so. Can't miss.

    It's not just the rare talents that are can't miss.
     
  10. Big McLargehuge

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    Easy.

    Safe picks are called safe picks because the player is more likely to reach their potential, even if it is less than another player who has less probablility.

    If you're looking at a guy who has a potential of 8 but only a probability of 5 and then you look at a guy who has a potential of 6 but a probablity of 9...the first one has better potential but isn't all that likely to fill it out, the second one doesn't have as much potential, but should fill out into it some day.
     
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    The potential is their maximum ability. Their probability is the likelyhood they will reach it. If a player has a talent level ceiling of being a 5, and there is a good chance he will reach that, then his probability of reaching that is 8.5 or a number that is higher than his potential. This is a player like i've listed about in Shay Stephenson, he has a ceiling of 5.5, which means he's not going to be in your Top 9, but there is a good chance he will achieve being a 5.5. Therefore, I gave him 8 probability he would reach it.

    If a player has a lot of skill and is a question mark, he gets a high ceiling but a low probability he will reach that ceiling. Like Rob Schremp. I'd rate him as a 8 potential and 6.5 probaility.
     
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    1.Alex Auld 8.5---7.5
    2.Ryan Kesler 7.5---7.5
    3.Kirill Koltsov 8.5---7
    4.Cory Schneider 9---6.5
    5.Ilya Krikunov 8---6.5
    6.Yevgeny Gladskikh 8.5---7
    7.MA Bernier 7.5---6.5
    8.Markus Kaankanperra 7---6
    9.Brandon Reid 7.5---6.5
    10.Alexander Edler 7---5.5
     
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    I think you're misunderstanding the idea of probability. Probability is the likelihood a player will reach his previously mentioned potential.

    Malkin-9.5-8
    Fleury-9.5-7.5
    Whitney-8.5-7
    Welch-8-7
    Salmonsson-8-6.5
    Anshakov-8-6
    Talbot-7-9
    Armstrong-6.5-8
    Moulson-7.5-8
    Bartschi-8-6
     
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    1. Andrei Kastsitsyn 8 - 6
    2. Alexander Perezhogin 7.5 - 6
    3. Chris Higgins 7.5 - 8
    4. Thomas Plekanec 7 - 7
    5. Yann Danis 7 - 5
    6. Ron Hainsey 7 - 6
    7. Kyle Chipchura 7 - 8.5
    8. Cory Urquhart 6.5 - 5.5
    9. Maxim Lapierre 6.5 - 8.5
    10. Marcel Hossa 6.5 - 5.5
     
  15. Ummm what do we do about Brent Burns :lol

    1) Patrick O'Sullivan- 7.5 - 8
    2) Josh Harding- 7 - 7
    3) Mikko Koivu- 7.5- 6
    4) Brent Burns- 7- 7
    5) AJ Thelen- 7- 7
    6) Roman Voloshenko 6.5- 6
    7) Rickard Wallin- 6.5 - 6
    8) Matt Foy- 7 - 6.5
    9) Jean-Michal Bolduc- 6 - 5.5
    10) Julien Sprunger- 6- 5.5

    God I forgot the rankings, where did they go?
     
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    Sharks:

    *Michalek 8......8.5 (could be better then anyone expected)
    Berier 8........7
    Hennessy 7.5.......7
    Ehrhoff 7.5.......7
    Kaspar 8.......7
    *Goc 7.....7
    Carle 7.....6.5
    *Mike Morris 7.....7.5
    Patrick Ehelechner 6.5........5
    Thomas Griess 6.5........5

    *all safe bets


    I really like this system a lot more then what HF is using at the moment
     
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    1. Andrei Kastsitsyn 8.5 / 7.5
    2. Chris Higgins 7.5 / 7
    3. Alex Perezhogin 7.5 / 7
    4. Tomas Plekanec 7.5 / 6.5
    5. Kyle Chipchura 7.5 / 6.5
    6. Ron Hainsey 7.5 / 6
    7. Yann Danis 8 / 6
    8. Cory Urquhart 7.5 / 6
    9. Marcel Hossa 7.5 / 6
    10. Maxim Lapierre 7 / 5.5
     
  18. LaLaLaprise

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    Beatnik... Lapierre is a much safer bet to make the NHL than Urqhart.
     
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    Thanks I have'nt seen them really often. how would you rate them with this system?
     
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    The Los Angelas Kings

    1. F - Dustin Brown - 7 - 9
    2. F - Lauri Tukonen - 7.5 - 8
    3. D - Denis Grebeshkov - 7.5 - 7.5
    4. F - Jeff Tambellini - 7 - 6.5
    5. F - Konstantin Pushkarov - 8.5 - 5
    6. D - Richard Petiot - 6 - 8
    7. F - Petr Kanko - 6.5 - 7
    8. F - Brian Boyle - 8 - 4.5
    9. F - Jens Karlsson - 5.5 - 8
    10. G - Ryan Munce - 6.5 - 6.5
     
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    Well Urquhart if he makes the NHL would be more of a top 2 line player. Lapierre i feel is more a "safe pick" to make it. He is big, plays more physical and is a better skater.

    Id rank Urqhart a 7 and Lapierre a 6 for poterntial and Probabilty 6 for Urquhart and 8 for Lapierre.
     
  22. Chaos

    Chaos And the winner is...

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    Dallas Stars:

    1. Trevor Daley 7.5/7.5
    2. Antti Miettinen 7/7.5
    3. Jussi Jokinen 8/6
    4. Loui Eriksson 7.5/7
    5. Shawn Belle 8/6.5
    6. Dan Ellis 7/7
    7. Yared Hagos 6/8
    8. Vojtech Polak 8.5/4
    9. Tobias Stephan 7.5/5.5
    10. Junior Lessard 7/6

    Probably way off on a few of these...but oh well :)
     
  23. LaLaLaprise

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    I still think Tobias Stephan is underrated by everyone, stars fans included. He should be higher than Ellis id think.
     
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    Chaos And the winner is...

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    Problem is, he suffered a serious hip injury that has put him out 6 months...no one knows exactly how he will recover from it.....he was tearing up the Swiss league before the injury. If he returns to that form, then I'd definately rank him ahead of Ellis.
     
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    Yeah injuries can be tricky. But he can rebound from it. He is still young, i think 21, plus goalies hit the scene pretty late.
     
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