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Wizard19

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Rank this guys.

Who will be the best or who will be the bust.

How many points this guys could put in the NHL

Jason Pominville
Tuomo Ruutu
Kyle Wellwood
Dustin Brown
T.J. Oshie
Stanislav Chistov,
Scottie Upshall,
Igor Grigorenko,
Lauri Tukonen
Nicklas Backstrom
Derick Brassard
Phil Kessel
Kyle Okposo
Peter Mueller
James Sheppard
Michael Frolik
 

Redwingsfan

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that was a lot of guys, but i'll give it a go.

nicklas backstrom
peter mueller
t.j. oshie
phil kessel
jason pominville
kyle okposo
derrick brassard
kyle wellwood
tuomo ruutu
james sheppard
dustin brown
michael frolik
igor grigorenko
lauri tukonen
scottie upshall
stanislav chistov

based on who will be the best players in their prime.
 

Heater

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Nicklas Backstrom
Peter Mueller
Phil Kessel
Tuomo Ruutu -things are about to change for him
Kyle Okposo
Derrick Brassard
Jason Pominville
James Sheppard
Michael Frolik
Kyle Wellwood
Lauri Tukonen
Dustin Brown - wont put up the points but will always be a physical presence
T.J. Oshie
Igor Grigorenko
Stanislav Chistov
 

Sam of Montreal

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Chistov is obviously the bust in this list...he never lived up to expectations and probably never will...
 

AlMo

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Rank this guys.

Who will be the best or who will be the bust.

How many points this guys could put in the NHL

Jason Pominville
Tuomo Ruutu
Kyle Wellwood
Dustin Brown
T.J. Oshie
Stanislav Chistov,
Scottie Upshall,
Igor Grigorenko,
Lauri Tukonen
Nicklas Backstrom
Derick Brassard
Phil Kessel
Kyle Okposo
Peter Mueller
James Sheppard
Michael Frolik

Niklas Backstrom - gets to play with the best winger in the game
Tuomo Ruutu - he could be a complete player if only he stays healthy
Phil Kessel - great speed and great hands
Kyle Opkoso
Kyle Wellwood
Peter Mueller
Jason Pominville
Michael Frolik
Scottie Upshall
Derrick Brassard
TJ Oshie
James Sheppard
Dustin Brown
Lauri Tukonen
Igor Grigerenko
Stan Chistov
 

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Pominville - 140 GP 52 G 46 A 98 Points

Wellwood - 130 GP 23 G 64 A 87 Points

Ruutu - 168 GP 42 G 45 A 87 Points

Those three are pretty close right now.
 

Redwingsfan

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I love how wellwood is so far down the lists... compared to guys that have never stepped onto the nhl ice...

thats true, but i still think guys like mueller and backstrom will turn out to be better players in the long run. if everyone were to think that they havent played in the NHL yet chistov should be ahead of allmost everyone.
 

BadBruins

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I think Chistov is already considered a bust. He just doesn't have the hockey sense to become a scoring threat in the NHL.

He's still only 24, but his upside now is probably nothing more than a 3rd line winger who posseses loads of skill and is good for the occasional highlight reel goal. He hit's like a truck for a little guy.

Kessel and Backstrom should be interchangeable 1-2 IMO.
 

Porn*

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thats true, but i still think guys like mueller and backstrom will turn out to be better players in the long run. if everyone were to think that they havent played in the NHL yet chistov should be ahead of allmost everyone.
well no....

guys who are performing well in the nhl belong at the top, regardless of talent...

until the guys have shown the talent in the nhl... its useless.


guessing how a prospect will do is pointless.. look at daigle or stefan.
 

kruezer

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well no....

guys who are performing well in the nhl belong at the top, regardless of talent...

until the guys have shown the talent in the nhl... its useless.


guessing how a prospect will do is pointless.. look at daigle or stefan.
That makes no sense, guessing at how a prospect will do in the NHL is pretty much scouting explained, just because players bust doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted to be done, and just because Backstrom hasn't played in the NHL doesn't mean that its impossible for someone to believe he will become a better player than Wellwood, simply a matter of opinion, hence the reason scouting is such big business.

I realize that Wellwood gets underrated, but anyone can point at past busts and say projecting players' future's is impossible.
 

Redwingsfan

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well no....

guys who are performing well in the nhl belong at the top, regardless of talent...

until the guys have shown the talent in the nhl... its useless.


guessing how a prospect will do is pointless.. look at daigle or stefan.


that depends on how you see things personally. either you do it like you do and rank the guys that has performed in the NHL on top. or like i do and try and predict who will be the best player in the long run. i dont think its plain wrong to rank backstrom and mueller ahead of wellwood if you truly believe they will be better NHL players.
 

Debrincat93

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I love how wellwood is so far down the lists... compared to guys that have never stepped onto the nhl ice...

because it clearly says who will be the best.. while wellwood might be in the top 5, if you think hes going to be any higher then that, (rank 5-7) then your kidding yourself... right now, guys like Backstrom, Kessel, Frolik, Okposo, Mueller, Brassard, all got the same if not better potential and are a lot younger. Sure its 50/50 that any of them will pan out, im sure one of those will bust, but granted in terms of potential, if they live up to the hype, they will all surpass wellwood
 

Lexicon

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No clue
Jason Pominville
Nicklas Backstrom
Kyle Wellwood
Tuomo Ruutu
Phil Kessel
Michael Frolik
Dustin Brown
T.J. Oshie
Scottie Upshall
Kyle Okposo
Lauri Tukonen
Igor Grigorenko
Derick Brassard
Peter Mueller
James Sheppard
Stanislav Chistov

Something like that....
 

Brandinho

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well no....

guys who are performing well in the nhl belong at the top, regardless of talent...

until the guys have shown the talent in the nhl... its useless.


guessing how a prospect will do is pointless.. look at daigle or stefan.

So then you'd have taken Wellwood over Malkin prior to this season? Your logic is ridiculous, this is a prospects board.
 

Brandinho

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Jason Pominville
Nicklas Backstrom
Kyle Wellwood
Tuomo Ruutu
Phil Kessel
Michael Frolik
Dustin Brown
T.J. Oshie
Scottie Upshall
Kyle Okposo
Lauri Tukonen
Igor Grigorenko
Derick Brassard
Peter Mueller
James Sheppard
Stanislav Chistov

Something like that....

I'm sorry but that's ridiculous. Upshall over Okposo? Damn near everybody over Mueller? Pominville over Backstrom? Wow.

I'd rank them like this:

Nicklas Backstrom
Phil Kessel
Kyle Wellwood
Kyle Okposo
Peter Mueller
Tuomo Ruutu
Jason Pominville
James Sheppard
Derick Brassard
T.J. Oshie
Scottie Upshall
Michael Frolik
Lauri Tukonen
Igor Grigorenko
Stanislav Chistov

I'm not saying that mine will be 100% right, just that yours are absurd.
 

whatthef

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Mar 1, 2007
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I love how wellwood is so far down the lists... compared to guys that have never stepped onto the nhl ice...

Just because someone has played in the NHL before someone else doesn't mean they'll put up better numbers. Be sides this is just opinion and projection.
 

whatthef

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This is strickly in order of how many points I think they'll put up, I think all of them other than Chistov will be preductive members of an NHL team. This is an odd colection, why do you want us to compaire this guys?

Nicklas Backstrom
Phil Kessel
Peter Mueller
T.J. Oshie
Kyle Okposo
Michael Frolik
Tuomo Ruutu
James Sheppard
Derick Brassard
Kyle Wellwood
Jason Pominville
Scottie Upshall
Igor Grigorenko
Dustin Brown
Lauri Tukonen
Stanislav Chistov
 

vincetheprince

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Nicklas Backstrom
Peter Mueller
Phil Kessel
Jason Pominville
Kyle Wellwood
Dustin Brown
T.J. Oshie
Kyle Okposo
Derick Brassard
James Sheppard
Tuomo Ruutu
Scottie Upshall
Michael Frolik
Igor Grigorenko
Lauri Tukonen
Stanislav Chistov
 

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