Rank These Offensive (Minded) D Men....

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  1. AmericanDream

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    These kids arent completely offensive minded, so dont get in a fit if a certain player isnt 100% offensive minded as some play a very balanced game, but all show traits of putting up very solid numbers as professional players....

    Who do you guys think will be the best of the bunch OFFENSIVE wise, and who will be the better ALL AROUND defensemen....sorta a 2 part question I guess..


    This is pretty much the cream of the crop for rookie dmen wise with Nick Leddy, Grant Clitsome, Michael Sauer, Yannick Weber, Steven Kampfer, Jeff Petry, all there as well....Just didnt want to list 20 players, figured I would cut it down a bit..



    Jamie McBain - Carolina Hurricanes

    Mark Fayne - New Jersey Devils

    Travis Hamonic - New York Islanders

    Kevin Shattenkirk - St Louis Blues

    P.K Subban - Montreal Canadiens

    Cam Fowler - Anaheim Ducks

    Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Phoenix Coyotes

    Ryan McDonagh - New York Rangers

    Adam McQuaid - Boston Bruins

    Jonathon Blum - Nashville Predators

    John Carlson - Washington Capitals


    Who will be the best ALL AROUND dman, and who will be the best OFFENSIVE dman...thanks
     
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    Is list just of rookies, if not im insulted Erik Karlsson isn't considered. If he was hes miles ahead of most of the players you mentioned except for PK who seems to be closing the gap.
     
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    In order for the best chance to become a #1 defenseman or a very good number 2.
    John Carlson
    PK Subban
    Oliver Ekman Larsson
    Ryan McDonagh
    Cam Fowler
    Travis Hamonic
    Jonathan Blum
    Kevin Shattenkirk
    Jamie Mcbain

    I wish Dallas could get their hands on one of these defenders.
     
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    Travis Hamonic has not looked out of place as a 20yr old. I have not seen an Isles D-man play a good 2 way game like he does in a long while. And he has a cannon!
     
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    The poll asks for best offensive upside in which case you have Fowler and Shattenkirk to low, while McDonagh is to high
     
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    It asks for both ALL AROUND dman and Offensive Dman. The guy decided he wanted to make a list about the best all around dman with the chance to be a #1/#2 dman.
    His list is accurate IMO.
    You also don't give McDonagh enough credit there.
     
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    Best offensive upside: John Carlson

    Best potential two-way: Travis Hamonic


    My crystal ball is in the shop though, so take it with a grain of salt. Pretty much splitting hairs with the group of defensemen you listed. They're all fine young players.

    If pressed a bit further, I'd say Shattenkirk is a close 2nd to Carlson for offensive upside, and OEL is a close 2nd to Hamonic for two-way play.

    *shrugs*
     
  8. PK Subban
    John Carlson
    Oliver Ekman Larsson
    Travis Hamonic
    Cam Fowler
    Ryan McDonagh
    Jamie Mcbain
    Kevin Shattenkirk
    Jonathan Blum
     
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    This is getting so old. People need to understand their team isn't special because they have young guy come in on defense and looking "solid" and "like a 10 year veteran". EVERY team has one of these players nowadays.
     
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    thought I made that pretty clear with my post, that this group consists of 2010-11 rookie dmen only...
     
  11. :facepalm:

    He asked a question regarding those players yet you're mad he didn't include another player?

    How do you know his basis for that list? Why do you think this is a merit-based list and in order to be on it you have to be good?

    and OP said it was 2010-2011 rookies only.
     
  12. AmericanDream

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    absolutely true, this group of freshman defensemen is pretty special to say the least. I posted 10-11 names to rank, but you can honestly argue for at least 3-4 guys that I didnt put on here to make the list as well...

    but, there still has to be a way to rank some of these kids after a year of NHL service (or parts of a year depending on how many games were played).
     
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    Karlsson is younger than most of the players on that list.
     
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    Read the OP, it says ROOKIE Dmen
     
  15. While Pietrangelo technically isn't a rookie, I wonder how he would fit in on this list.
     
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    wow, I didnt think I had to stress that more then once....

    I dont care how young Karlsson is, he is a great dman no doubt, but he isnt included in this list because: A. I didnt include him, and B. HE ISNT A ROOKIE!

    Yipes.
     
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    lol.
     
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    Who cares?

    If he wanted to know how Karlsson ranked amongst the other defenseman on that list, then he would have included him.

    Why do people take it as a slight against their teams' players because they aren't on a list of players someone wants to know about?

    We get it, Karlsson is awesome. If you start a thread about how awesome Karlsson is, I'm sure you will find your share of posters who want to grovel over his abilities. But he's obviously not someone that the OP cares to compare to the other players listed. Get over it.
     
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    I am going to have to say that Jamie McBain is getting overlooked here a bit. He has 40 points in 90 NHL games thus far and should be good for 40+ points next year with growth and maturation. In addition to that, he played 19+ minutes per game last season and his defensive game is incredibly sound for a defender primarily known for his puck moving abilities.

    With that said, it's nearly impossible to discern between this group with any degree of success. They're all going to be VERY good defenders for a long time.
     
  20. ALRIGHT THEN.

    Let's steer this baby back on track.


    P.K Subban - Montreal Canadiens
    John Carlson - Washington Capitals
    Cam Fowler - Anaheim Ducks
    Oliver Ekman-Larsson - Phoenix Coyotes
    Kevin Shattenkirk - St Louis Blues
    Jamie McBain - Carolina Hurricanes
    Ryan McDonagh - New York Rangers
    Travis Hamonic - New York Islanders
    Jonathon Blum - Nashville Predators
    Adam McQuaid - Boston Bruins
    Mark Fayne - New Jersey Devils

    There
     
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    And the cool thing for American hockey is how many of these players are actually going to be a part of the core group of the future of the blueline for Olympic and WC squads. For the first time in a long time, they're going to be players left home in the future that deserve to be there.
     
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    I like the list, but is this for overall, or offense? I am just asking as Fowler and Shatty are kind of low, so I am assuming this is for overall and not offensive dmen?
     
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    if anyone thinks any of the other young rookie dmen that I left out belong on this list, by all means let me know, I pretty much tried to quickly put it together and I know that leaving off Leddy, Sauer, Weber, Clitsome, Petry, etc was tough as some could possibly be swaped out for a player or two on my list....

    but if they aren't a rookie, save the typing...and dont bother pimping your teams young stud non rookie dman...
     
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    I wouldnt say Hamonic is "offensive minded" per say. Hes definitely a defense first dman.

    But he does seem to be developing into a well rounded dman.
     
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    John Carlson
    P.K Subban
    Oliver Ekman-Larsson
    Jamie McBain
    Cam Fowler
    Kevin Shattenkirk
    Ryan McDonagh
    Travis Hamonic
    Jon Blum
    Mark Fayne
    Adam McQuaid
     

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