Matthews34
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Kadri is so underrated. Back to back 30-30-60 seasons and still no love. Most of the centres on that list have yet to do that.
He's easily the bestYeah. Couturier seems to be the new most underrated player on HF. He's probably the best of this bunch and here you have him at the bottom of your lists. Is this trolling or what? He is elite two-way guy, did you see last playoffs? Only guy on Flyers who even tried, absolutely carried the team. And he was a beast in the regular season too.
Couturier has been the best offensively of anyone on this list by a fair margin for 3 years now when it comes to 5on5 scoring while playing the toughest minutes. Some of these guys are better on the PP.Since the trade Schenn has only played Center in St. Louis. I really don't think there are any plans to see him move back to the wing, he's actually been better this year on faceoffs I think he's around 53 percent. I don't know if it's him or his line or just our putrid defensive mess we have going on but I don't think he's been all that great defensively. He's been a force offensively at center since he's been here. Love the physicality there too.
As for OP.
1. ROR
2. Monahan
3. Trochek
4. Johansen
5. Couturier
6. Karlsson
7. Schenn
8. Duchene
9. Kadri
10. Turris
11. Zib
12. Galchenyuk
Some of them are hard to classify like Schenn as he's in his second year as a center. Couturier is also very hard due to his breakout last year offensively, although the defense has always been there. Karlsson is by far the hardest with his shooting percentage last year but if he puts up a similar season I would be comfortable moving him up quite a bit.
"Tougher division" but plays much easier qualcomp while producing less offensively Es and being tiers behind defensively.Ryjo is better than Couts as he plays in the hardest division in the NHL and produces and dishes like a beast, good defensively and has a wicked shot, his only downside is he doesn't shoot as often as he should with a wrister like that.
"Tougher division" but plays much easier qualcomp while producing less offensively Es and being tiers behind defensively.
Checks out
Couturier has been the best offensively of anyone on this list by a fair margin for 3 years now when it comes to 5on5 scoring while playing the toughest minutes. Some of these guys are better on the PP.
By far the best defensively, best offensively overall last year and best over the last 3 years 5on5 offensively. There's no case for anyone over him unless you hold stock in the 19 points early into the season
RORYou tell me which stats look better.
RyJo
This year:
GP: 15
G: 2
A: 13
P: 15
Career:
GP: 527
G: 118 :
A 239
P: 357
Couturier
This year:
GP: 16
G: 5
A: 3
P: 8
Career:
GP: 514
G: 106
A: 169
P: 275
RyJo also has better faceoff percentage, and the only thing Couturier has stats wise that is better than RyJo is plus/minus. Couts is a no show in the playoffs as well.
ROR
14 GP
8 Goals
12 assists
20pts
Like a 67% faceoff win percentage..
Lots of players on this list I have a soft spot for. Big fan of the well rounded 1B centres that don’t get enough love. With that being said anyone ranking Zibanejad ahead of most of these guys, are so off base.
Until last year he was a 40ish point guy. He had a hell of a year last year and if he proves he can do it again you're right. But that doesn't look good so far, and that puts him near the bottom.Yeah. Couturier seems to be the new most underrated player on HF. He's probably the best of this bunch and here you have him at the bottom of your lists. Is this trolling or what? He is elite two-way guy, did you see last playoffs? Only guy on Flyers who even tried, absolutely carried the team. And he was a beast in the regular season too.
RANK THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS FROM BEST TO WORST:
In no particular order....
Kadri
Galchenyuk
Johansen
Zibanejad
Schenn
Couturier
Turris
Duchene
OReilly
Trocheck
Monahan
Karlsson
Stepan (added)
HAVE FUN AND BE NICE
Kadri is so underrated. Back to back 30-30-60 seasons and still no love. Most of the centres on that list have yet to do that.
Couturier the Selke runner up.You tell me which stats look better.
RyJo
This year:
GP: 15
G: 2
A: 13
P: 15
Career:
GP: 527
G: 118 :
A 239
P: 357
Couturier
This year:
GP: 16
G: 5
A: 3
P: 8
Career:
GP: 514
G: 106
A: 169
P: 275
RyJo also has better faceoff percentage, and the only thing Couturier has stats wise that is better than RyJo is plus/minus. Couts is a no show in the playoffs as well.
Until last year he was a 40ish point guy. He had a hell of a year last year and if he proves he can do it again you're right. But that doesn't look good so far, and that puts him near the bottom.
He was never a "40ish" point guy. Hes been our best 5 on 5 offensive player for 3-4 years, yes better than Giroux and voracek. He's a guy who paced in the 50s back to back years who played the heaviest defensive minutes with scrub players.Until last year he was a 40ish point guy. He had a hell of a year last year and if he proves he can do it again you're right. But that doesn't look good so far, and that puts him near the bottom.
Im pretty sure 90 Percent of people in this thread would take someone on that list other than Couturier.He was never a "40ish" point guy. Hes been our best 5 on 5 offensive player for 3-4 years, yes better than Giroux and voracek. He's a guy who paced in the 50s back to back years who played the heaviest defensive minutes with scrub players.
Since playing with quality players on the 1st line he's put up these numbers:
Games played:99
Goals:38
Assist:49
Points:87
Equates to 32 Goals, 41 Assist and 73 points. Couturier had no limited training camp and no pre season and came in rusty, finally getting his legs. Hes a 70+ point selke contending 1C, the best player in this grouping
You're right he was a sub 40 guy until last year.He was never a "40ish" point guy. Hes been our best 5 on 5 offensive player for 3-4 years, yes better than Giroux and voracek. He's a guy who paced in the 50s back to back years who played the heaviest defensive minutes with scrub players.
Since playing with quality players on the 1st line he's put up these numbers:
Games played:99
Goals:38
Assist:49
Points:87
Equates to 32 Goals, 41 Assist and 73 points. Couturier had a limited training camp and no pre season and came in rusty, finally getting his legs. Hes a 70+ point selke contending 1C, the best player in this grouping