Rank: London Knights and Kitchener Rangers drafted players

[trahans99]

Richards
Fritsche
Bolland
Schremp
Valabik
McGrath
PerryPrust


I don't see any of the others making the NHL.

I asked about probable impact NHLers and potential.. Perry definately has much higher upside than Valabik and their probability of impact NHLers is probably pretty close but i'd still bet on Perry over Valabik. That big bumbling idiot is going to get embarrassed for the next 5-6 games

 

[thomasincanada]

Richards
Fritsche
Bolland
Schremp
Valabik
McGrath
Perry
Prust


I don't see any of the others making the NHL.

Not trying to disagree with everything you say, but I honestly feel Syvret has a shot at the NHL, a legitimate shot. Not saying he'll make it but I wouldn't count him out.

Tom

 

[Douggy]

Not trying to disagree with everything you say, but I honestly feel Syvret has a shot at the NHL, a legitimate shot. Not saying he'll make it but I wouldn't count him out.

Tom

We're only talking about drafted players here.

 

[CharlieGirl]

That big bumbling idiot is going to get embarrassed for the next 5-6 games

I suppose it's possible that Perry will look that bad, but I thought you were a fan of his....

 

[Injektilo]

Why has Benoit never been drafted? He's got some pretty big numbers for a defenceman, in all his OHL years....

Size, right? Or do scouts just not see him translating well at the NHL level?

 

[FearTheFlyers]

Not trying to disagree with everything you say, but I honestly feel Syvret has a shot at the NHL, a legitimate shot. Not saying he'll make it but I wouldn't count him out.

Tom

I think Danny has a legit shot also but he hasn't been drafted.

 

[FearTheFlyers]

Perry definately has much higher upside than Valabik

Incorrect. Valabik's upside is tremendous. Looking at him now, he is raw and has poor skating and stick skills. However, becuase of his size and tenacity, if he can be taught, like Chara, to get better in other parts of his game, becuase of his size, he will be a monster. It remains to be seen if it can be done, but his upside is much bigger than Perry's if they both pan out.

 

[trahans99]

Incorrect. Valabik's upside is tremendous. Looking at him now, he is raw and has poor skating and stick skills. However, becuase of his size and tenacity, if he can be taught, like Chara, to get better in other parts of his game, becuase of his size, he will be a monster. It remains to be seen if it can be done, but his upside is much bigger than Perry's if they both pan out.

Valabik's upside is not even close to what Chara has done in his young career. He has the size but thats it

 

[thomasincanada]

I think Danny has a legit shot also but he hasn't been drafted.

You're correct, I forgot we were only discussing already drafted players..

Tom

 

[FearTheFlyers]

Valabik's upside is not even close to what Chara has done in his young career. He has the size but thats it

I didn't mean to compare Valabik to Chara as they are dissimiliar players but due to the size of chara I am pointing out that Chara was once very raw and considered a waste etc. For some reason there is a thought from some people that defensive d-men can't have a lot of upside or potential where actually the upside of a guy like Valabik is huge. Do I think he'll ever reach it? No, but his upside is bigger than a guy like Perry.

 

[komisakick ass]

If I was picking who I wanted on my NHL team the most here's the order:
1. Richards
2. Schremp
3. Bolland
4. Perry
5. Prust
6. McGrath
7. Valabik
8. Fritsche
9. Kell
10. Methot

Fritsche played in the NHL last season and you put him 8th
you know the game

 

[kremlin]

This is the order in which I would take them
1. Richards
2. Fritsche
3. Perry
4. Bolland
5. McGrath (tie)
5. Schremp (tie)
7. Valabik
8. Prust
9. Kell
10. Methot

 

[Bryanbryoil]

How Would You Compare Valabik To Alexei Semenov???

Both are similar in size, but from what I've seen of Semenov, he's no-where near mean enough for his size yet. It's to the point that any D-man over 6-5 will be compared to Chara due to size similarities, and Chara's dominance as a D-man. That said, I don't see Semenov being that type of player, not to mention that he has yet to translate ANY type of offense to the pro game. Is Valabik a similar player??? Is he better or worse than Semenov was at this point in his development??? Thanks, Bryan

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I'm looking at alot of these lists, and I wonder: how is Bolland rated higher than Perry? Perry was taken higher than Bolland. While you may say they were different drafts, that doesn't really help your case, as 2003 was much stronger than 2004.

Bias aside, I think Perry will have the most impact, followed closely by Schremp, Richards and Fritsche. Perry will be surrounded by talent once he hits the NHL, and I see him having a nice NHL career. Richards would be #1 if he was on a different team. With Jeff Carter and others ahead of him for years to come, he won't get as much exposure and icetime. Then again, Philly doesn't have alot of centers they drafted themselves anyways, so he might be elsewhere anyways.

My full list:

1.Perry
2.Schremp
3.Richards
4.Fritsche
5.Bolland
6.Valabik
7.Prust
8.McGrath
9.Kell
10.Methot

Syvret would be at about #8 or 9 if he was drafted.

 

[trahans99]

I'm looking at alot of these lists, and I wonder: how is Bolland rated higher than Perry? Perry was taken higher than Bolland. While you may say they were different drafts, that doesn't really help your case, as 2003 was much stronger than 2004.

Bias aside, I think Perry will have the most impact, followed closely by Schremp, Richards and Fritsche. Perry will be surrounded by talent once he hits the NHL, and I see him having a nice NHL career. Richards would be #1 if he was on a different team. With Jeff Carter and others ahead of him for years to come, he won't get as much exposure and icetime. Then again, Philly doesn't have alot of centers they drafted themselves anyways, so he might be elsewhere anyways.

My full list:

1.Perry
2.Schremp
3.Richards
4.Fritsche
5.Bolland
6.Valabik
7.Prust
8.McGrath
9.Kell
10.Methot

Syvret would be at about #8 or 9 if he was drafted.

I'm not sure if your referring to my list, but I have Perry as having higher potential than Bolland but Bolland being a safer pick or bet have an impact due his all around game.

I hope Perry has an impact at the next level and think its probably a 60% chance that he will but Bolland probably at 70% being on Chicago which has no good forward prospects (Arnason and Ruutu or not prospects anymore.

 

[DaaaaB's]

Fritsche played in the NHL last season and you put him 8th
you know the game

Yeah and he also gets hurt every year. The guy is fragile and likely won't become a star in the NHL if he even lasts at all. If you knew anything about hockey you would know that some guys develop quicker then others. So what if Fritsche played in the NHL last year for a short time, that's because Columbus gave him a chance because they had such a weak team. Obviously you're one of those fans that thinks if a players a scoring star in junior then he will be in the NHL too. Fans that actually know something about the game know that's not always true. At least I have an opinion and don't just say what everyone else does.

 

[dawgbone]

Ducks offered Perry + 1st for Comrie so they would have gotten Schremp if they had wanted him, Oilers fans like to claim that they would have picked Stafford had they gotten Duck's pick which was higher than Philly's but that's pure speculation.

Not really... Stafford already had ties to the team, and there were several stories in the dailies that had the Oilers picking Stafford.

They wouldn't have taken Schremp at 9... that's just simply a fact.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Not really... Stafford already had ties to the team, and there were several stories in the dailies that had the Oilers picking Stafford.

They wouldn't have taken Schremp at 9... that's just simply a fact.

Yup, the Oilers would've had Stafford and Dubnyk. I was actually cheering when Buffalo nabbed Stafford!!! Seeing him at the WJC's he looks like a solid 2-way 3rd liner, which the Oilers have enough of already IMO.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

I think Danny has a legit shot also but he hasn't been drafted.

and he's been to two seperate training camps and let go each time without a contract.

Washington then NYR.

 

[FlyersFan10*]

Bias aside, I think Perry will have the most impact, followed closely by Schremp, Richards and Fritsche. Perry will be surrounded by talent once he hits the NHL, and I see him having a nice NHL career. Richards would be #1 if he was on a different team. With Jeff Carter and others ahead of him for years to come, he won't get as much exposure and icetime. Then again, Philly doesn't have alot of centers they drafted themselves anyways, so he might be elsewhere anyways.

My full list:

1.Perry
2.Schremp
3.Richards
4.Fritsche
5.Bolland
6.Valabik
7.Prust
8.McGrath
9.Kell
10.Methot

Syvret would be at about #8 or 9 if he was drafted.

The Flyers will make room for Richards. If it means playing him on the wing, they will do so. They will do anything to have a roster spot for him. I'm not worried about Richards at all playing behind Carter and that's simply because I think Richards will end up ahead of Carter on the depth chart simply because of the overall game Richards plays. You read from most on here that Richards has a Mike Ricci type game and he'll be very good defensively. What you never read is how underrated his offensive game is and how good he can be offensively. I've said he reminds me a lot of Doug Gilmour and Bob Clarke has also said the same. I don't see anything wrong with that comparison either. Both weren't the greatest of the skaters, yet both made up for their weakness in skating by their overall hockey sense. That's something that can't be taught and it's gonna be very valuable to Mike.