Post-Game Talk: Rangers @ Sabres -- 4/1/21

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  1. Mika Zibanejad

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  2. Pavel Buchnevich

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  3. Chris Kreider

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  4. Ryan Strome

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  5. Artemi Panarin

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  6. Kaapo Kakko

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  7. Filip Chytil

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  8. Julien Gauthier

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  9. Alexis Lafreniere

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  10. Kevin Rooney

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  11. Phil Di Giuseppe

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  12. Colin Blackwell

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  13. Adam Fox

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  14. Ryan Lindgren

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  15. Jacob Trouba

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  16. K'Andre Miller

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  17. Lobor Hajek

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  18. Brendan Smith

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  19. Igor Shestyorkin

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  20. Nolan Ryan

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  1. kovazub94 Enigmatic Sponsor

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    Who cares what Lafreniere scoring rate is in his first NHL season in his D+1 year impacted by Covid?
    Look at Kakko’s development this year and take a breath.
     
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    To me it’s a little strange when trying to win games is used as an indictment against a coach. Beyond that we can see the growth in Kakko’s game this year and last night he ended with 6 shots on goal. As well team defense this year has vastly improved which tells me that players understand they have to be defensively responsible.

    On the question of overtime ice time from last night’s game. It’s become a tactic in the league to control the puck long enough that the opposition is caught on the ice for an extended time through multiple line changes. The Rangers have not been very good at this. Last night we started with Mika, Artemi and Fox who controlled the puck well enough but didn’t change soon enough to make it a real advantage and the next group out that included Trouba and Buch lost possession and were the ones caught out for too long and the reason why Blackwell takes a face-off is he’s actually pretty good at it unlike a lot of our other centers. So why put Mika, Artemi and Fox back out? Well they’re our best and they had enough time resting while the last group had gone well over a minute.
     
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    Good face off guys still lose a good chunk of them. You can’t look at one play and say ‘that’s the play where a good face off guy would seal the win’, it’s more over the course of a season you see the difference
     
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    That Trouba and Blackwell shift in overtime was some classic David Quinn buffoonery.

    The guy was the Les Miles of college hockey coaches and it really shows with some of his decision making
     
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    The last game we just played before the Sabres against the Capitals...

    Buffalo had 12 shots in the 1st period. The 1st goal was an absolute mess of a goal and youre blaming him for that one? He kept this team in the game in the 1st when Buffalo had their biggest push and energy and more chances.

    And the 3rd goal he was screened. How about the team doesnt ice the puck. Or how about they bury an empty net goal. Or Buch connects on ONES cross ice pass last night. He attempted at least 4 that were knocked down, redirected, behind a teammate, etc. He was bad last night. Before Kreider’s shot was blocked, Buch tried yet another cross ice pass to Zibanejad, which was not only behind him but it slowed the breakout allowing BUF to get back with a chance to block it.

    Blaming Igor is some reach
     
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    How about a fact that Quinn does have a plan for OT? Don’t you all complain that he doesn’t prepare / have a plan?

    The team actually won in OT!!! How this is not important (specifically addressing about OT) is beyond me with these complaints.
     
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    By making the playoffs you help to develop your young players so I’m really not sure what you’re on about. The sooner they see what playoff hockey is like the better and potentially giving away two points to a bottom feeder like Buffalo isn’t going to help anyone’s confidence and if that had happened those griping about Chytil’s and Lafreniere’s ice time would be griping about that instead. Really almost everyone here wanted to see a blowout last night but the Sabres as bad as they may be played pretty well and Tokarski was really good as well as lucky a few times. We should respect all opponents. But a win is a win whether by 5 goals or by 1.
     
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    Haven't been a Quinn hater. Disagreed with him about things? Oh yeah.

    But NOT playing Kakko in OT last night is more than head scratching and borders on insanity.

    I think my dog & fiancée would've played him on the very 1st shift or AT WORST the 2nd
     
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    I'm not blaming him completely but when game in and game out your goalie gives up late goals your goalie is one of the players that needs to do better.
     
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    They went 58% on face offs last night.
     
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    I'm not proposing a conspiracy theory; I'm not of the belief that Kakko and Lafreniere are being and will be 'ruined' by our coach; and I'm not really that pessimistic. I'm a fan, so I'm emotional about the team--but I'm also just a spectator and at the end of the day, I just watch and wait and see what happens.

    What I was posting was more in response to posters trying to dunk on people for being upset or concerned (the poster I quoted, btw, definitely wasn't doing that). It's sports. It's a thread that's live during and right after a game played by our favorite team (and let's face it , if you're a member of this board, you're a fanatic, of the 1% of most over-the-top invested fans of the team in the world probably). In that respect, I just think you have to let people express their feelings, even if those feelings are bad after a win, even if they say something that sounds extreme. And really, my whole point is that it's not really unreasonable to be concerned.

    If you're just happy to see the Rangers win, then great, a great night to watch. If you trust 'the process' and feel confident that our young players are or will be making strides, great. But if you're looking ahead and you're worried, if you're skeptical of the results thus far--well, that's OK too, because frankly, there's plenty of reason to feel either way.
     
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    To develop they need to actually play.

    If yesterday was about winning to push to make it in, then Kreider should have sat.
     
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    During the game I don't think Laf did anything to justify being given ice time during overtime, but Kakko should have been given an opportunity. He's been defensively responsible and much better with puck protection.

    Kreider's empty net attempt looked like he let up on the shot.

    I'm not even going to comment on the power play. I'll just pretend they had none.
     
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    they won’t play in the playoffs if the Rangers don’t make it and playoff hockey is a real learning experience for anyone who hasn’t done it before. Beyond that I think Kakko is going to play quite a lot from now until when our season ends.

    on your previous post on face-offs there were 45 last night and Mika took 24 or more than half of them and he had a really good night winning 17. That said like all of our centers he’s on the wrong side of the 50/50 divide for the season having won 311 and lost 366.
     
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    I don't doubt Kakko and Fil was next up in ot until the blackwell trio got stuck out there for too long and at that point you jump to your best three fox zib and panarin because you might not get a chance to get them out there again.
     
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    He never rides the hot hand. He is clueless in that instance..... unless it's Blackwell.

    He doesn't put the kids in position to succeed. No other coach would limit Lafrenieres time, the way Quinn has, on the PP. It is truly asinine.

    I don't believe anything that comes out of his mouth. 'Can't trust them defensively'.... Kakko has been your best defensive forward all year, how are you that ignorant? "There's not enough ice time to go around" YOUR PP SUCKS. PUT THE #1 and #2 PICKS ON THE PP. CHANGE YOUR GAMEPLAN YOU DONKEY.

    I can't wait for the Quinnettes to be out of here. 0 adjustments. Playoffs? We will get embarrassed, like the covid-play-in.
     
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    Ive read " they won't learn if they dont play" a lot here regarding the kids. You learn at practice and you execute in games. If you don't execute in games then you don't play. Its a fairly simple equation as to how to get more ice time, Kakko figured it out, Lindgren figured it out, chytil figured it out before his injury and covid and was being rewarded. Lafreniere will get it, he's a smart player and I'm not getting the impression that he's not happy there at all.
    Making the playoffs and getting introduced to it will be a good experience for the kids so do what you can to win and get in even if its a sweep its a learning lesson for them all.
     
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    stop. Learning comes from experience and guidance. Playing with other inexperienced/green players and watching from the bench is not the best way to learn.
     
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    Quinn really needs to shake up the KZB line... its doing nothing.

    switch laff and Kreider. See if that works and it spreads out talent.

    also will give kreider the kick in the ass he needs every 5 games. So he can start a tear again.
     
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    I don't think Quinn was going to use another unit. That's a big rotation for 3 on 3 where most of the shift isn't physical.
     
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    Why are you glad to see KK benched when he may be our best defensive forward at this point? where is the LOL?
     
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    Chytil's line played well in their chances, that includes Laf. Coach is an idiot.
     
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    Are you suggesting that Blackwell is playing better than Kakko? That Blackwell is more reliable in all zones than KK?
     
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    Not if they play 8 minutes a night in the playoffs. They can watch on TV to learn about the intensity. If we are fortunate enough to make the playoffs we will get hammered in the first round by whoever we play. Develop the kids; most important thing.
     
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    wow, this is dopey. So, because Fox is played a ton when the other choices are also kids somehow justifies stunting the development of our young forwards in a year when we cannot win anything? Nah. Poorly thought out post.
     
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