Rumor: Rangers Interested in James van Riemsdyk
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haven't read the whole thread,
but he would not be the type of signing Gorton said he was interested
Only makes sense if we traded Zucc,
and i'd rather have Zucc,
and not 4-6 years of contract of the size that we say we don't want to give to Zucc or Hayes
JVR is not a best fit, neither for rebuld or Cap
but he would not be the type of signing Gorton said he was interested
Only makes sense if we traded Zucc,
and i'd rather have Zucc,
and not 4-6 years of contract of the size that we say we don't want to give to Zucc or Hayes
JVR is not a best fit, neither for rebuld or Cap
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Why @cwede - he is a left wing who don`t know anything about the team. And we won`t move Kreider for him - so he is not that special, but he is a free agent. I don`t like the market value for a winger like him, and 6-7 years retirement contract is not even tempting.
I doubt that Gorton will be interested.
I doubt that Gorton will be interested.
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Because you would currently have a "Kreider-lite" until his "short-ish commitment" is over and then what? Be out of an ACTUAL Kreider AND his lite version? Thats terrible asset management.
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I would hope Gorton is doing his due dilligence - see if JvR will take a Shattenkirk deal to play with his childhood team.
In a nutshell, for me: JvR at four years or leas, very interested. Over four years, no interest.
In a nutshell, for me: JvR at four years or leas, very interested. Over four years, no interest.
I read somewhere that Gorton is not going to sign a big name free agent signing, but I can`t find the source unfortunately - I think it was FB, but I don`t have it as reliable source so anything can happen I guess. 
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Don't mind it at all with the cap space we have available. 3-4 years at 5-6 mill will probably be the ballpark . Also with Zuc, Hayes and Kreider all possibly on the trade block, it wouldn't hurt to have JVR in the top 6 with Chytil, Andersson and Kravtsov in the mix.
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Manage the cap. A good deal today might look awful tomorrow. The cap is a “hard” limit. Fiscally responsible teams set “soft” limits / margins of error to re-sign players down the line, for unexpectedly available (via trade or otherwise) players, etc.
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JVR is a LW, Zucc is a RW. Not sure why he'd make Zucc expendable. Do you mean in terms of having a veteran on the roster? I'd say signing JVR makes Vesey expendable. Although I'd say not signing JVR makes Vesey expendable. Still Quinn could do some magic with Vesey but I digress.
I'm in the "good terms" boat. He's 29. He's probably looking for 6 year term which is too long for me. He plays more of a power forward game which usually becomes less effective in the latter parts of one's career unless they can have Jagr-like fitness ethics (I mean no gf as long as I play hockey is pretty hardcore!) Couture is the same age and is reportedly getting 8x8 (which I find kinda crazy - signed for $8M till he's 37!). I think JVR must see that sort of deal and expect something similar. Honestly, Couture and JVR are pretty similar statistically speaking. Still can't believe Couture got such a contract.
The other thing to consider is what if our young players all turn into super stars? Where is the cap to resign them to big extensions? I'm not expecting any big break outs but just emphasizing that short term contracts that coincide with those young players hitting their RFA offseasons (2021) is a really important consideration long term.
TLDR: I expect JVR to be too expensive both in AAV and term length so pass.
I'm in the "good terms" boat. He's 29. He's probably looking for 6 year term which is too long for me. He plays more of a power forward game which usually becomes less effective in the latter parts of one's career unless they can have Jagr-like fitness ethics (I mean no gf as long as I play hockey is pretty hardcore!) Couture is the same age and is reportedly getting 8x8 (which I find kinda crazy - signed for $8M till he's 37!). I think JVR must see that sort of deal and expect something similar. Honestly, Couture and JVR are pretty similar statistically speaking. Still can't believe Couture got such a contract.
The other thing to consider is what if our young players all turn into super stars? Where is the cap to resign them to big extensions? I'm not expecting any big break outs but just emphasizing that short term contracts that coincide with those young players hitting their RFA offseasons (2021) is a really important consideration long term.
TLDR: I expect JVR to be too expensive both in AAV and term length so pass.
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Kreider would demand a haul. That haul is the "and then what."
You are gaining assets in exchange for the downgrade at 1LW. That's textbook asset management.
doesn't seem like a right move for the rebuild, unless he understands and is willing to go with the process and signs only for 1 or 2 years without any NTC (or maybe a limited one) allowing us to move him for assets when the time is right.
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I imagine JVR wants some term, though. So it's likely moot.
I like the prospect of locking CK in as a fixture for the rebuild when all is said and done, anyway.
I like the prospect of locking CK in as a fixture for the rebuild when all is said and done, anyway.
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We'll see what tomorrow or the next few days brings. Shattenkirk did his thing last year. JVR can fulfill a childhood dream (that's if the Rangers make an offer) or he can just go for the best deal. He has to make his own decisions what he wants to do most.
Rangers were not rebuilding when they signed Shattenkirk. So if JVR wants to fulfill his dream 2 years is the max that Rangers should give him.
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I mean what did you think he'd get? This isn't 2005. Logan Couture just got 8M a year for 8 years. He has 59-54-133 the last two years. JVR has 65-51-136 since then. They're the same age. Evander Kane's numbers are even worse he got 7M for 7 years (2 years younger).
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