Proposal: Rangers-Ducks (Nash/Fowler)

[Dk61388]

Nash & Skjei for Fowler and Silfverberg

Ducks get a scoring left winger that could put up big points on first or second line and an NHL ready dman to replace Fowler.

Rangers get a puck moving dman to slot in behind Mcdonagh on left side and a winger who can play on both sides that can put up 40-50 points.

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[Spazkat]

How about no? Do not want Nash. Especially not losing Silfverberg and taking back another D.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Yeah why would Anaheim want an aging Rick Nash making $7.8 million for 2 more years for Fowler and Silfverberg. Why don't people realize that Anaheim has an Internal budget and can't afford these kind of deals.

 

[Vipers31]

Not a good fit. In real life, because Nash's contract doesn't fit the Ducks' budget, even when sending out guys like Fowler and Silfverberg, especially since the latter still needs to be replaced, which can't be expected to happen at a price lower than his. It's also a bad fit on HF, because certain ideas about Fowler's play are particularly widely spread in the Rangers fanbase, so don't expect any discussion involving him to turn out worthwhile.

 

[slappipappi]

Nash & Skjei for Fowler and Silfverberg

Ducks get a scoring left winger that could put up big points on first or second line and an NHL ready dman to replace Fowler.

Rangers get a puck moving dman to slot in behind Mcdonagh on left side and a winger who can play on both sides that can put up 40-50 points.

Nash likely has negative value, in that he can only be traded for another large salary piece of a player no longer producing at an acceptable level.

Fowler and Silverberg both have decent value, and could be traded for young, good cost controlled players.

The rangers aren't going to get younger, better and cheaper in one trade.

 

[anezthes]

Nash & Skjei for Fowler and Silfverberg

Ducks get a scoring left winger that could put up big points on first or second line and an NHL ready dman to replace Fowler.

Rangers get a puck moving dman to slot in behind Mcdonagh on left side and a winger who can play on both sides that can put up 40-50 points.

No interested in trading Fowler and Silfverberg. Don't want Nash and no interest in Skjei.

 

[Off Sides]

Every Nash thread is always the same.

Rangers have a better chance of getting an acceptable return by gambling he has a uninjured good season this year and seeing what transpires nearer to the trade deadline or even next off-season or next deadline.

The likely return for Nash currently is bad, if he does not have a good year, it's not like the Rangers lost out on much by gambling.

 

[dracom]

We're weak in wingers, so why are we trading a young top 6 winger for an aging top 6 winger that has a terrible contract? We're also giving up the best value. We're not here to fix your teams mistakes by giving you young good player for your prospect and aging wingers.

 

[RangerGuru]

Rangers pass. No need for a LD, no interest in Fowler or heavily downgrading from Nash to Silverberg

 

[McDonald19]

Uh, why would the Ducks trade their 2nd line right wing??

Bad proposal for multiple reasons.

 

[mytduxfan*]

Awful.

 

[btlaffin]

Absolutely not. Nash is not the spot for the Ducks. Try somewhere else.

 

[go4hockey]

Nash & Skjei for Fowler and Silfverberg

Ducks get a scoring left winger that could put up big points on first or second line and an NHL ready dman to replace Fowler.

Rangers get a puck moving dman to slot in behind Mcdonagh on left side and a winger who can play on both sides that can put up 40-50 points.

Yea your dreaming. Ducks would not do it if you took out Silfverberg. Nash without a good part of his cap hit retained does not hold the value most Ranger fans think he does. Ducks work on a internal budget so they would be the last team to take on the awful Nash cap hit.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Fowler has 2 years left at 4 million per year while Nash has 2 years left at 7.8 million per year.

Not sure why NYR want to trade Nash but if they do, there looking for more than Fowler. Fowler is a top 3 or 4 D man (Maybe top 2 on some teams) while Nash is a pure top 6 forward who scores goals!

 

[go4hockey]

Rangers pass. No need for a LD, no interest in Fowler or heavily downgrading from Nash to Silverberg

Very funny but if your GM got this offer deal would be done instantly. Value favors the NYR pretty easy.

 

[Sojourn]

Fowler has 2 years left at 4 million per year while Nash has 2 years left at 7.8 million per year.

Not sure why NYR want to trade Nash but if they do, there looking for more than Fowler. Fowler is a top 3 or 4 D man (Maybe top 2 on some teams) while Nash is a pure top 6 forward who scores goals!

I guess 15 goals still technically qualifies as scoring goals, but it sure isn't worth $8m.

Anaheim passes.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Ducks pass quite easily

 

[YP44]

Yeah why would Anaheim want an aging Rick Nash making $7.8 million for 2 more years for Fowler and Silfverberg. Why don't people realize that Anaheim has an Internal budget and can't afford these kind of deals.

Especially considering Nash actually makes more than his cap hit in the final two years of his deal. If it were a back diving deal where he was making a fair bit less than the cap hit I think Nash would be a good player to target for the ducks.

Not at the price of Fowler & Silfverberg but maybe at the price of fowler.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I guess 15 goals still technically qualifies as scoring goals, but it sure isn't worth $8m.

Anaheim passes.

15 goals in 60 games with nobody to play with. 42 goals the year before. Ducks don't have to pass cause the deal isn't on the table. haha. I do agree the 8m hit is steep but it's only for 2 years and Nash is not that old at 32.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

15 goals in 60 games with nobody to play with. 42 goals the year before. Ducks don't have to pass cause the deal isn't on the table. haha. I do agree the 8m hit is steep but it's only for 2 years and Nash is not that old at 32.

Nonsense. Rangers would do almost any deal that revolves around Nash for Fowler. The issue is that the Ducks will need a deal that is either dollar for dollar or the Rangers take on more salary. Fowler and Stoner for Nash at 6-6.5 million and a 2nd may make some sense.

 

[Sojourn]

15 goals in 60 games with nobody to play with. 42 goals the year before. Ducks don't have to pass cause the deal isn't on the table. haha. I do agree the 8m hit is steep but it's only for 2 years and Nash is not that old at 32.

You really want to play this game? Okay, fine.

Anaheim isn't going to move one of their best defensemen(to say nothing of Silfverberg) for an 8m dollar player who hasn't been consistently healthy enough to be worth his contract. No one wants that contract right now. That includes the Rangers.

On a personal level, I'd cringe at seeing Rick Nash, and his 36 points in 65 games in the playoffs. That defenseman you're so easily dismissing has similar point production. You might want to think about that for a second.

 

[Beer League Sniper]

Nonsense. Rangers would do almost any deal that revolves around Nash for Fowler. The issue is that the Ducks will need a deal that is either dollar for dollar or the Rangers take on more salary. Fowler and Stoner for Nash at 6-6.5 million and a 2nd may make some sense.

Yeah, no. The Rangers want futures for Nash, not a player like Fowler.

The GM has gone on record saying he wasn't going to make a deal just to make a deal. Fowler fits literally none of our needs, and he's mediocre-to-bad in nearly every facet of the game.

Nash is probably going to stay put, have a nice season, and be auctioned at the TDL. There's no point in NYR trading him right now if they have to take a crap return. Despite all his troubles last season, his ES impact was still among the best in the league. He just had a ridiculously low shot % and got injured.

 

[Sojourn]

Yeah, no. The Rangers want futures for Nash, not a player like Fowler.

The GM has gone on record saying he wasn't going to make a deal just to make a deal. Fowler fits literally none of our needs, and he's mediocre-to-bad in nearly every facet of the game.

Nash is probably going to stay put, have a nice season, and be auctioned at the TDL. There's no point in NYR trading him right now if they have to take a crap return. Despite all his troubles last season, his ES impact was still among the best in the league. He just had a ridiculously low shot % and got injured.

Or he's going to get injured. Again. And his value will continue to be crushed by a terrible cap hit.

And that's why Anaheim is staying away.

They don't need a player who is a roll of the dice, and they especially don't need to be moving one of their best defensemen on a good contract for a roll of the dice on a terrible one.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yeah, no. The Rangers want futures for Nash, not a player like Fowler.

The GM has gone on record saying he wasn't going to make a deal just to make a deal. Fowler fits literally none of our needs, and he's mediocre-to-bad in nearly every facet of the game.

Nash is probably going to stay put, have a nice season, and be auctioned at the TDL. There's no point in NYR trading him right now if they have to take a crap return. Despite all his troubles last season, his ES impact was still among the best in the league. He just had a ridiculously low shot % and got injured.

Fowler is 24 so I'm pretty sure he would be considered a futures deal. Fowler being anchored by Bieksa is mediocre in a lot of areas but a 40 point d-man is what he is when he's actually given someone that can play off of him and I think New York could actually supply that kind of partner. To say that doesn't fill any of the Rangers needs after losing Yandle with no replacement is a reach on your part.

The only way that Nash gets a legitimate futures trade is if he's held onto until the 2018 trade deadline. If the Rangers want to do that, more power to them. There will be plenty of teams interested in Fowler if the Ducks want to move him. No GM in their right mind is going to consider him a mediocre-to-bad in all facets of the game.

 

[YP44]

Fowler is 24 so I'm pretty sure he would be considered a futures deal. Fowler being anchored by Bieksa is mediocre in a lot of areas but a 40 point d-man is what he is when he's actually given someone that can play off of him and I think New York could actually supply that kind of partner. To say that doesn't fill any of the Rangers needs after losing Yandle with no replacement is a reach on your part.

The only way that Nash gets a legitimate futures trade is if he's held onto until the 2018 trade deadline. If the Rangers want to do that, more power to them. There will be plenty of teams interested in Fowler if the Ducks want to move him. No GM in their right mind is going to consider him a mediocre-to-bad in all facets of the game.

This, as a Kings fan Fowler is legit. Not sure who that other poster is watching