Edmonton's the only team I can see trading the pick outright or, at least, out of the top 10. IMO, that will also depend on their GM search. Highly doubt Gretzky does anything earth shattering at the draft if he's still wearing the interim tag.
Value of: Rangers acquiring a 2019 pick between #6-10
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KingDeathMetal
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As a Rangers fan who would be willing to trade Kreider for a Top 10 pick, given he's in the final year of his contract, it will probably take a sign and trade to get that deal done. And I don't see him agreeing to sign long term with Edmonton, due to location. I could see him agreeing with Buffalo, since it's not that far from where he grew up in Vermont, comparatively. Kreider at reasonable money for 5 or 6 years, plus the WPG 1st should get us the Buffalo pick.
I would trade #10 for K'Andre Miller. Obviously it would hurt to give him up but I think his value is around 6-10 in this draft so it's more or less fair.
Ny wants to add dmen of Miller’s caliber. Trading him doesn’t make sense.
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That would be even better. Doesn’t even need to be a full on dump like Manning, could make it a guy like Benning who is overpaid (1.9 for next year, then RFA), but still a decent 6/7.
From an Oilers perspective, to pull off a deal like this (especially if we had Kreider retained 50%), and then possibly deal the 22nd OA for Mike Hoffman (if the Panthers target Panarin and Bob and need to clear space) would be huge for us. My fellow Oil fans are too caught up with the impending UFA status. We need to make the playoffs next year. If those guys are worth extending, then we work on that when the time comes. They could also be 1 year placeholders for Marody/Benson/Yamamoto.
It's not the same thing, if the reports are true Jeff Skinner wanted to be as close to home as possible, that means he was willing to go to Toronto, Buffalo and SOME reports had Ottawa in there.
You aren't getting anything for a guy willing to go to 2 teams, MAYBE 3.
Krider doesn't have that type of NTC.
It`s fine, I believe that Buffalo or Oilers are better fit for Goergiev + kreider move, and a 2019 1st Jets pick or Tampa conditional pick to get it done in value.
Strong disagree
MAYBE, have an open mind if there is a package on the table with a lot that I like, then I think about it,
but otherwise, no.
This.
There is a middle ground between
how much other teams have to add, depending on slotting, better slotting requires less
and
how little Ranger fans would settle for in an add.
That middle ground may/may not be livable for both,
But that's what I see.
If hawks are passing on Zib, what would
Avs
Kings
Wings
offer?
Lindberg Cheese
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That’s right, We pooched our 2nd round by trading up to get him and adding an effing G
If the Rangers really like the name on the board at #8, I could see something like:
Kreider + Pionk + Georgiev
for
#8OA + Safin
I would make this move for Kirby Dach.
Kreider + Pionk + Georgiev
for
#8OA + Safin
I would make this move for Kirby Dach.
If Anaheim had only one or two guys they really liked in their tier and they don't fall to them, I could see them moving the pick.
I have no idea if Rangers fans would be open to moving Zib, but if they were perhaps something like:
#9
Henrique
for
Zib
+ small piece
I'm only moving Henrique in this case due to $ and because we are upgrading him to Zib; he's in no way a cap dump. I don't know how he'd feel about NY being a Devil for so long, but he seems to be a consummate pro and would help all the young players in NY (both insulating them on-ice and helping in the locker room).
Getz, Zib, Steel, Lundestrom, Rowney is very solid C depth now and future, and Ducks would still have a later first-round pick.
I have no idea if Rangers fans would be open to moving Zib, but if they were perhaps something like:
#9
Henrique
for
Zib
+ small piece
I'm only moving Henrique in this case due to $ and because we are upgrading him to Zib; he's in no way a cap dump. I don't know how he'd feel about NY being a Devil for so long, but he seems to be a consummate pro and would help all the young players in NY (both insulating them on-ice and helping in the locker room).
Getz, Zib, Steel, Lundestrom, Rowney is very solid C depth now and future, and Ducks would still have a later first-round pick.
Machinehead
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Yeah, I wouldn't think so either
Saw a few NY fans posting they'd be ok though in this thread, if the pick/deal was right....but if I'm NYR I'm not moving him for a dice roll.
Machinehead
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I would roll the dice on Kreider. He's 28 and has had injury issues. Great player, but there's potential for the Rangers to have a poor return on that investment.Yeah, I wouldn't think so either
Zibanejad is 26, has term, and has established himself as a high-end player. He's part of the finished rebuild.
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Put yourself in that position, would you do it? Nope, Vancouver should not do it either.
WeDislikeEich
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No interest in trading all the way back from 7 to 22 (if that’s where the pick ends up. There’s still a possibility it could end up 28-31).
Buffalo needs to add more young high end talent to their core, same as the NYR do.
Being at pick #7 keeps them in that really good 2nd tier of this draft (picks #3 - 7 to 10, depending on how you view things). At #22 or later, all those guys are long gone.
I’d be open to trading out later 1st round pick + something for Kreider though (assuming he was open to an extension here).
Buffalo needs to add more young high end talent to their core, same as the NYR do.
Being at pick #7 keeps them in that really good 2nd tier of this draft (picks #3 - 7 to 10, depending on how you view things). At #22 or later, all those guys are long gone.
I’d be open to trading out later 1st round pick + something for Kreider though (assuming he was open to an extension here).
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We don’t know for sure yet.
Currently we hold the San Jose pick at #24. But that could be pushed down to #22-23, or pushed into the 28-31 range. We don’t know yet.
Buffalo could also still end up with the STL pick (currently #20) if STL loses before the conference finals and (at least) 1 of Colorado, Vegas, Dallas or Columbus make their conference finals.
That would cause the STL pick to fall to #19 (or possibly even 17,18 etc), which would then transfer it to Buffalo (we get it if it’s 19 or better. Anaheim gets the better or the 2 picks if they both fall in the 20+ range)
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I think the extension talk would have to come after the draft, that should make it difficult.
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No way I trade 8 for Kreider and 22, his extension will be too much money and too long if I am moving our 8 it’s is for a player 25 and under signed or RFA
Yeah that would hurt big time. I know you have to give to get but (besides our #2 Overall) to me he is the one the most exciting assets we have in terms of potential.
