Larry Brooks: Rangers a Finalist for Kerfoot (Update: Kerfoot Chooses Colorado)

[nyr2k2]

Seems like Pionk was a bit higher tier of college FA but maybe I'm overrating him based on the press he's gotten. Smooth skating puck moving defenseman with a big shot, only 22 years old? Kind of a hot commodity

You could be right. His value is what, like a second round pick maybe? Kerfoot is maybe a third rounder? IDK. I actually saw a little bit of Pionk whereas I don't think I saw Kerfoot last year.

 

[Vitto79]

Would this dude have a shot to play asap ?

 

[kovazub94]

There will be a "NYR rule" in the next cba that will require a compensatory pick from a team that signs someone else's draftee as a fa (if fa was tendered an offer or something).

 

[cheech70]

There will be a "NYR rule" in the next cba that will require a compensatory pick from a team that signs someone else's draftee as a fa (if fa was tendered an offer or something).

Just said that to my son

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

I think it's more likely the remove this from the next cba in its entirety.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Would this dude have a shot to play asap ?

Yes. He'd compete with Andersson, Boo and Desharnais for the 3C and 4C position. I'm still holding out hope we trade for a top-6 C, though.

 

[GAGLine]

I think it's more likely the remove this from the next cba in its entirety.

Won't happen. The union would fight it, and I don't think the NHL cares enough to push the issue. Besides, it's not like it's a special rule for NCAA players. They are just more likely to take advantage of it because they have somewhere to play for 4 years, unlike CHL players who are done at 20/21.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Won't happen. The union would fight it, and I don't think the NHL cares enough to push the issue. Besides, it's not like it's a special rule for NCAA players. They are just more likely to take advantage of it because they have somewhere to play for 4 years, unlike CHL players who are done at 20/21.

I see what your saying but in union negotiations they usually sacrifice the "unborn " meaning they will drop something that benefits future members to help the current group.

Happened with Suffolk PD a few years back. They changed the pay structure for new hires so it took 10 years to get to top pay instead of 5. They also reduced the top pay after those 10 years then what current officers made in 5. Along with making them pay into their benefits.

Did this so they didn't have to pay into their benefits and increase their top pay.

If the union has to sacrifice something to get something for their current members I think this is one of the items on the chopping block.

 

[nyr2k2]

I've never heard anyone other than fans complain about the setup. I don really think it's an issue, or that it's enough of an issue that anyone would consider making it a point in negotiations. Like when the owners do a bargaining survey prior to negotiations on the next CBA, you might have three or four owners mention it and even then it will probably be low on their list of priorities. And because of that it won't even come up in negotiations.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

 

[Alluckks]

Just said that to my son

No way it could be more than like a 7th.

 

[Ola]

Not surprised, something was holding up us gunning for a depth center and players.

Would Shawn Horcoff be a comparable?

From the little, very little, I've seen of Alex Kerfoot -- I think is much slighter than Horcoff, Bonino and the likes. Different player type. A Horcoff is what, 210 lbs?

Alex Kerfoot is a 5'10 170 center that scored 45 pts in 36 games. Based on that -- he plays exactly like you would expect him to play! One little caveat, he isn't super fast going straight ahead. Of course not slow, but its E-W his skating show the most, not N-S. Think much more like a Derek Ryan in Carolina. Upside Jonathan Marchessault?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

The Rangers have an excellent track record with college players. Stepan. McDonagh. Hagelin. Kreider. Hayes. Vesey. I read Kerfoot doesn't want to play at home.

Gilroy, Haggerty, Gilmour, Allen.

It's easy to list the success stories but it's not that easy

 

[Ola]

Dumb question, as a hockey player, do you really have to be smart to get into Harvard?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Dumb question, as a hockey player, do you really have to be smart to get into Harvard?

As far as I know, you need to reach a certain GPA to get into a school like Harvard, when you are on a scholarship.

 

[Tawnos]

Dumb question, as a hockey player, do you really have to be smart to get into Harvard?

Yes. Ivy League schools like Harvard or Yale don't offer athletic scholarships. You have to be able to get into the school on your academic merits.

 

[Greg02]

Yes. Ivy League schools like Harvard or Yale don't offer athletic scholarships. You have to be able to get into the school on your academic merits.

It's worth noting that with holistic admissions practice, the academic standards to get in a a person who can play on the hockey team and the academic standards to get in as a non-athlete look pretty different.

 

[Vitto79]

Yes. He'd compete with Andersson, Boo and Desharnais for the 3C and 4C position. I'm still holding out hope we trade for a top-6 C, though.

Free prospect that's played w vesey is a no brainer I guess

 

[Mac n Gs]

You could've just read my earlier posts

 

[cwede]

There will be a "NYR rule" in the next cba that will require a compensatory pick from a team that signs someone else's draftee as a fa (if fa was tendered an offer or something).

Won't happen that way, rights to players expire all the time

Besides only sometimes is this really a case where team wants player but he waits and walks

Something like this would clearly show what teams and players really want
A) as exclusive rights are expiring, Require teams to formally offer a ELC deal, sorta like QO for an RFA, if they really want that player

b]but if they do, they have to reserve a contract slot for as long as offer is open

C) Then make it binding til Nov 1st

If player wants to wait it out, to be ufa, he starts behind in his first pro season

 

[Hunter Gathers]

There will be a "NYR rule" in the next cba that will require a compensatory pick from a team that signs someone else's draftee as a fa (if fa was tendered an offer or something).

No there will not.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I've never heard anyone other than fans complain about the setup. I don really think it's an issue, or that it's enough of an issue that anyone would consider making it a point in negotiations. Like when the owners do a bargaining survey prior to negotiations on the next CBA, you might have three or four owners mention it and even then it will probably be low on their list of priorities. And because of that it won't even come up in negotiations.

It's hilarious. It's like people don't understand that this existed well before the current league structure.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Gilroy, Haggerty, Gilmour, Allen.

It's easy to list the success stories but it's not that easy

The only hyped guy, there, is Gilroy. The others were just looked at as decent signings with some minor upside. Kerfoot, while a "meh" prospect, has a bit of hype around him.

We do well when we sign drafted college FAs.

 

[nyr2k2]

It's hilarious. It's like people don't understand that this existed well before the current league structure.

Right. And people always call it a "loophole," either not understanding what a loophole is or not understanding that this mechanism isn't one. It's somewhat unique in American sports but it's not some unintentional oversight.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Right. And people always call it a "loophole," either not understanding what a loophole is or not understanding that this mechanism isn't one. It's somewhat unique in American sports but it's not some unintentional oversight.

Correct. It's existed for years. Why would they change it? CHL players can also refuse to sign with their draft teams. So can foreign-born players.

"Loophole"? Hardly.