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Still surprised by some of the takes in here. Was a smart move to extend him and its honestly a bargain. Hes a bottom 6 swiss army knife.
Great post!Double post!
The weirdest thing about Raffl is his European career shouted AHL lifer:
He was in Allsvenskan, not even the SHL, at 23 and 24 years old.
Put up good but not spectacular numbers.
2011-12: 39g 10-13 23, SHL playoffs 6g 0-1 1
2012-13: 49g 24-22 46, SHL playoffs 10g 3-3 6
Then comes over and starts for the Flyers the next season.
No one made "grand proclamations" about NAK's future b/c he passed through waivers, just that the gnashing of teeth was a bit overdone.
4th liners pass through waivers on a regular basis b/c if they're perceived as 4th liners, there isn't a lot of upside there.
And every team has a bunch of 4th line candidates, so they're not dumping their own for someone else's unproven marginal prospect.
Every so often a player surprises, though as Raffl shows, even if they have that one 20 goal season, smart GMs aren't fooled.
I mean after Bunnaman's awful cameo, who would have written him in as the 4C during the team's hottest stretch of the season?
On the other hand, who is projecting NAK or Bunnaman as future top 6 forwards?
If they develop into reliable 4th line players who aren't out of place on the 3rd line, that's probably their upside.
Which is basically what Raffl has been his career - and there ain't nothing wrong with that (if you don't go crazy and pay them $4-5M a year).
No one made "grand proclamations" about NAK's future b/c he passed through waivers, just that the gnashing of teeth was a bit overdone.
4th liners pass through waivers on a regular basis b/c if they're perceived as 4th liners, there isn't a lot of upside there.
And every team has a bunch of 4th line candidates, so they're not dumping their own for someone else's unproven marginal prospect.
Every so often a player surprises, though as Raffl shows, even if they have that one 20 goal season, smart GMs aren't fooled.
I mean after Bunnaman's awful cameo, who would have written him in as the 4C during the team's hottest stretch of the season?
On the other hand, who is projecting NAK or Bunnaman as future top 6 forwards?
If they develop into reliable 4th line players who aren't out of place on the 3rd line, that's probably their upside.
Which is basically what Raffl has been his career - and there ain't nothing wrong with that (if you don't go crazy and pay them $4-5M a year).
Deady, it was bad. For some god-forsaken reason, I went back in an Incognito tab so I could see all of the posts. You were largely taking your usual stance of roles and minor players not mattering that much. But you're not everyone.
It wasnt a mistake. He didnt do much with the chances he had prior. Make all the excuses you want fact is he didnt impress.Coaches and GMs can't be wrong guys.
It doesn't matter that tons of people on here knew that it was a mistake and were proven correct, yet again.
Raffl is also a glue guy and very close with our core guys.
Yeah, he seems to be particularly close with Giroux and Voracek.Raffl is also a glue guy and very close with our core guys.
I cannot possibly understand why. He’s solid, but we have other options in the AHL.
That's my issue too.
I have no issue with Raffl the player as a 4th line guy....especially if it was for only 1 year.
But deep down, I expect to be pissed off when he is on the 3rd line and posting 20 points.
Is there any contract or trade thread in the past year where you have said something sensible?
If i was as obsessed with you as you appear to be with me then i'd go back through your history and find dozens of stupid stuff you've said too. Do i need to get a restraining order?
I was wrong, Raffl's won me over. Not sure if i'd re-sign him next summer again, but he's earned his spot.
Don't have to resign him, he's on a two year deal.
He's unlikely to be resigned after this deal, given he'll be 33 and the Flyers will have numerous options for the 4th line.
If i was as obsessed with you as you appear to be with me then i'd go back through your history and find dozens of stupid stuff you've said too. Do i need to get a restraining order?