Todd1a
Kucherov or prospect
Should the Lightning try to trade for gudas and get him back say sustr, vladdy and a 4th rounder for gudas ?
I don't think Yzerman values Gudas that highly considering he shipped him off in the first place.
Ya I think we need a guy like him we have to be harder to play against. I would even consider killorn for gudas at this point.I don't know. You have to consider the circumstances at the time. Gudas was out for the year, had just had a knee surgery (and wasn't the most mobile guy to begin with), and we had a shot to make a deep run in the playoffs. Coburn was good in those playoffs.
I would love to have Gudas on the 3rd pairing right now. Remember how we used to be "difficult to play against"? Gudas was a lot of that.
I don't know. You have to consider the circumstances at the time. Gudas was out for the year, had just had a knee surgery (and wasn't the most mobile guy to begin with), and we had a shot to make a deep run in the playoffs. Coburn was good in those playoffs.
I would love to have Gudas on the 3rd pairing right now. Remember how we used to be "difficult to play against"? Gudas was a lot of that.
My main point is you don't often see GMs turn around and reacquire a guy they just spurned and vice versa (can anyone cite an example?). But I also agree with Sky04's assessment.
I do agree that we need more guys that are difficult to play against in general, though.
Disagree, Gudas was trending downwards even before his injury, guy was a good for a beauty hit or 2 every couple games but was routinely getting outskated and beat wide by anyone with speed. His lackluster skating caused him to take bad penalties as well. He started out being "difficult" to play against then become a pylon.
Seems to have found a new gear in Philly or maybe their defense is just so bad he looks better than he is. Either way, he'd be a 3rd pairing guy on our team, who doesn't provide puckmoving abilities or offense, while costing 3m+.
My main point is you don't often see GMs turn around and reacquire a guy they just spurned and vice versa (can anyone cite an example?). But I also agree with Sky04's assessment.
I do agree that we need more guys that are difficult to play against in general, though.
Disagree, Gudas was trending downwards even before his injury, guy was a good for a beauty hit or 2 every couple games but was routinely getting outskated and beat wide by anyone with speed. His lackluster skating caused him to take bad penalties as well. He started out being "difficult" to play against then become a pylon.
Seems to have found a new gear in Philly or maybe their defense is just so bad he looks better than he is. Either way, he'd be a 3rd pairing guy on our team, who doesn't provide puckmoving abilities or offense, while costing 3m+.
He didn't find a new gear, he found a new knee. His skating looks much better, much more efficient, and his numbers are placing him around what we had hoped Garrison would continue to be. Basically shot generating second pair D-man.
At the time getting coburn was great but right now ya I'd take gudas over garrison right now.
I honestly never thought i'd say that, no disrespect to Gudy, but yeah. He really took a step forward defensively, though he still has minor footspeed issues as well as the ability to take just a pile of penalties, though that seems to have subsided a bit this season.