World Cup: R16: Uruguay vs. Portugal, 6/30/2018

Discussion in 'Soccer' started by Live in the Now, Jun 25, 2018.

?

Who advances?

Poll closed Jun 30, 2018.
  1. Uruguay

    60.0%
  2. Portugal

    40.0%
  1. Deficient Mode Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2011
    Messages:
    60,256
    Likes Received:
    2,342
    Trophy Points:
    156
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    *Inhales deeply*

    Fans badly overestimate the impact one player can have on the final result in this sport. Even the greatest player will fail in an unfavorable context with poor team synergy. Even hockey is a more individualistic sport. Your yearning for one player to stamp his authority on the match and lead his team to victory says far more about your mind than it serves as some kind of accurate or insightful commentary on the sport.
     
  2. Chimaera same ol' Caps

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2004
    Messages:
    25,976
    Likes Received:
    522
    Trophy Points:
    214
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    La Plata, Maryland
    Uruguay probably isn’t the better team. They had their star players create a bit of magic (while Portugal didn’t) while out working Portugal. They’re scrappy, dirty and they got it done. But it wasn’t pretty.
     
  3. Luigi Habs Captain Saku

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2005
    Messages:
    15,963
    Likes Received:
    1,573
    Trophy Points:
    169
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Montreal
    Torreira-Godin-Gimenez were big for Uruguay.

    Surprised Caceres is doing really well.
     
    Chandrashekhar Limit likes this.
  4. Bondurant Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2012
    Messages:
    2,624
    Likes Received:
    1,556
    Trophy Points:
    109
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Phoenix, Arizona
    At 37 Ronaldo will probably still be the best Portuguese player.
     
    Chandrashekhar Limit likes this.
  5. Ceremony ______________

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2012
    Messages:
    106,404
    Likes Received:
    4,731
    Trophy Points:
    195
    SB Cash:
    $ 90,000
    Home Page:
    The Messi vs. Ronaldo thread is thataway
     
    Deficient Mode likes this.
  6. John Pedro #JackHughes

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    4,843
    Likes Received:
    739
    Trophy Points:
    109
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    São Paulo
    I wonder if McDavid would score a goal in a knockout WC game...
     
  7. TheMoreYouKnow Registered User

    Joined:
    May 3, 2007
    Messages:
    13,177
    Likes Received:
    1,162
    Trophy Points:
    169
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Eire
    Portugal simply didn't have enough quality to offer to go far..but of course we said that in 2016 too..I guess you can't expect lightning to strike twice in the same place.

    Well, yes, but on the other hand, he could at least play well.
     
    Stray Wasp likes this.
  8. hatterson Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2010
    Messages:
    24,450
    Likes Received:
    3,612
    Trophy Points:
    186
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Occupation:
    Software Developer
    Location:
    North Tonawanda, NY
    I’d say there were better in the sense they converted their chances.

    Portugal had a few more, and more of the run of play in the second half, but didn’t convert. They had 2-3 very good chances to equialize but didn’t put them on target.
     
  9. John Pedro #JackHughes

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2014
    Messages:
    4,843
    Likes Received:
    739
    Trophy Points:
    109
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    São Paulo
    Their defense is so much better than Portugal's, their midfielder is also better and they don't rely only on a single individual as Portugal does. At this moment, Portugal is Ronaldo + Bernardo and a bunch of so-so players.
     
  10. les Habs Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    17,355
    Likes Received:
    1,703
    Trophy Points:
    186
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Milwaukee
    Disgraceful reffing. TF did all that extra time come from? Oh well, tough loss for all the HF Pepe fans.
     
    Chimaera, ehhedler and Stray Wasp like this.
  11. ChrisK97 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    Messages:
    12,211
    Likes Received:
    2,790
    Trophy Points:
    151
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Sounds like they're soccer's equivalent of a Dead Puck Era hockey team.
     
  12. N o o d l e s Registered User

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2010
    Messages:
    10,443
    Likes Received:
    3,204
    Trophy Points:
    156
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    South Shore
    ?????
     
  13. ChrisK97 Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2016
    Messages:
    12,211
    Likes Received:
    2,790
    Trophy Points:
    151
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    And yet we aren't rid of Suarez.
     
  14. Stray Wasp Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    4,368
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    Trophy Points:
    139
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South east London
    That post needs to be seen in the context of a running gag throughout the thread for which we are indebted to SEPH's unique appreciation of Cavani's talents.
     
  15. Peen Rejoicing in a Gudbranson-free world

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2013
    Messages:
    12,790
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    Trophy Points:
    156
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Cavani was just unbelievable. Him and Suarez. They did anything they wanted to.

    Godin and Giminez were walls

    But for me Laxalt was the best player. He was everywhere.
     
    JaymzB likes this.
  16. JaymzB Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2003
    Messages:
    2,779
    Likes Received:
    54
    Trophy Points:
    146
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Toronto
    If Messi's Barca and Ronaldo's Real have taught me anything, its that they have one great player and a bunch of nobodies.

    That's why they have been able to spend such little money building great teams.
     
    Stray Wasp likes this.
  17. les Habs Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    17,355
    Likes Received:
    1,703
    Trophy Points:
    186
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Milwaukee
    Where is that genius from the other match to comment on Ronaldo's charisma and ability to rise to the occasion?
     
  18. Stray Wasp Registered User

    Joined:
    May 5, 2009
    Messages:
    4,368
    Likes Received:
    1,314
    Trophy Points:
    139
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South east London
    Trying to purchase a false beard to stick on their chin?
     
    Blender, JaymzB and les Habs like this.
  19. Corto Faceless Man

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2005
    Messages:
    15,508
    Likes Received:
    630
    Trophy Points:
    169
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Braavos
    Cavani is a beast, as most know.

    Suarez is an awful sportsman (I don't want to go as far to say "human being") and he can rot.
    Entire Uruguay squad seems to take note from Suarez and this ref tonight was AMAZING.

    He let so much stuff go that other refs would call (just because players were throwing themselves and yelling after every contact), I loved it.
     
    N o o d l e s and JaymzB like this.
  20. Troubadour Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2018
    Messages:
    860
    Likes Received:
    571
    Trophy Points:
    64
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Well that's a good thing. Let's hope we keep Cavani as well.
     
  21. les Habs Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2005
    Messages:
    17,355
    Likes Received:
    1,703
    Trophy Points:
    186
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Milwaukee
    So how many WC knockout round goals does Ronaldo have?
     
  22. Pouchkine Registered User

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    2,484
    Likes Received:
    249
    Trophy Points:
    81
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Messi and Ronaldo both can't deliver on the big stage. Nothing new.
     
  23. Troubadour Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2018
    Messages:
    860
    Likes Received:
    571
    Trophy Points:
    64
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Yeah well, they're good up front, have been for some time now (Forlán-Suárez punch was a sight to behold as well), but rather haphazard all around. A couple of great strikers took them pretty far in 2010. I'm wondering how deep they can go this year. Still amazing for a three and a half million country.
     
  24. Corto Faceless Man

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2005
    Messages:
    15,508
    Likes Received:
    630
    Trophy Points:
    169
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Location:
    Braavos
    Oh, also, William Carvalho was fantastic.

    I want to thank the di*do brothers for counting coppers and not buying the guy last season when Bilic was pushing for him.
    And by "thank" I mean they can suck it.
     
    Stray Wasp and S E P H like this.
  25. S E P H @SEPH_WHL

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2010
    Messages:
    19,665
    Likes Received:
    6,932
    Trophy Points:
    201
    SB Cash:
    $ 100,000
    Occupation:
    WHL
    Location:
    Toruń, PL
    I just don't see it...Cavani opened his body up and did a nice curve for his goal, but again Portugal defenders got lost and he was wide open on the wing.

    If his team gets past France with him leading the way then I will absolutely take back everything I said about him from all the past years'.

    It depends entirely on the size of the playing surface IMHO. Rugby is probably the biggest sport which requires the most teamwork for a team to win a game. Basketball is played on a very small surface so you see the more talented and athletic players dominate. So you're correct that football requires more teamwork than hockey, but it's based upon how big the sport needs to be played. The problem though with Ronaldo and Messi is that because football is like a religion, you just keep hearing about these two over and over again. Just look on this board, you have a Messi vs Ronaldo thread yet we don't have a France vs Brasil best out of the nations thread.

    People watch sports for individuals, it is sort of sad but I think that is the truth. F1 is a perfect example of this, people watch it for the indiviudal drivers when in reality the cars are true objects between making a driver good or not. If you put Lewis Hamilton in a Haas F1 car he will drive as a 15th place driver, if you put Romain Grosjean in Red Bull he will finish in the top 5 consistently.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice
monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"