Player Discussion Quinn Hughes, Pt. VI

[WetcoastOrca]

The Staal brothers did it.

Eric (2nd overall)
Jordan (2nd overall)
Marc (12th overall)

Ah! Thanks. I knew I forgot someone!
I guess if they all go top 10 that would be a new record. Just saw that Button has Luke ranked 8th overall so a lot will depend on how he plays pre draft.
Pretty damn impressive for Eric and Jordan to both go second overall!

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Would you trade Quinn Hughes for Jack Hughes one for one at this moment?

I wouldn’t.

f*** no
I won’t trade him for Dahlin at this point

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Ah! Thanks. I knew I forgot someone!
I guess if they all go top 10 that would be a new record. Pretty damn impressive for Eric and Jordan to both go second overall though!

There’s actually another Staal brother, the youngest one was a late round pick but never sniff the nhl

 

[maroon 6]

There’s actually another Staal brother, the youngest one was a late round pick but never sniff the nhl

He did manage to play 2 games in the NHL and he was actually a second round pick just because of his last name.

 

[VanJack]

Lol!....I remember when the 'book' on Quinn Hughes was that he might struggle with the physicality of NHL forwards, and that his shot was 'average' to 'below average'. So much for that.

The thing that still shocks me is how wiry kids like Pettersson and Hughes can rifle the puck......I don't know if it's the composite sticks, or whether it's just years of refining their shooting technique. But imo Hughes is shooting the puck a lot harder now than he was at even the start of the season.

 

[OldCraig71]

Hi Canucks fans, I just wanted to drop by and acknowledge the fact that you guys just might have the best player taken in the 2018 draft! What a beautiful player he is!

 

[Nomobo]

1. He’s so calm and determined. If he’s not among the top three yet, he will be soon.
   
2. What a score!!

 

[clunk]

One of the things that all Canucks fans can unite on is the fact that Quinn Hughes is an absolute stud that completely changes the game from the back end.

 

[Jay Cee]

**** no
I won’t trade him for Dahlin at this point

Why would you? Dahlin is probably going to be a better overall dman over time but we drafted Hughes and he is going to be a machine in all 3 zones.

 

[VancouverJagger]

I recall back to before his draft saying to myself that if we were going to have any hope of competing in the following years we were going to have to crush that draft - just like we had done with the EP one. I also had in mind that we needed to come away with a 1 or 2 d man. AS of this point I'm pretty confident in saying we did that. First game back from the all star break he had a few miscues but since then he's picked it up and is playing with such poise and confidence. He does things out there that show an EXTREME amount of faith in his abilities. We are soooo lucky to have him. He's already in my mind the BEST Canucks D man to ever tie up the laces. He's a truly great player. With him and EP leading the charge I have renewed hope that we might actually get to experience a cup in our lifetimes........something we could all agree wasn't nearly as plausible even a season ago.

 

[Bleach Clean]

I agree, judge prospects for the skills they possess and their production

Teams do this anyway. The reason consensus is important is that it’s a snapshot of public opinion at the time. It’s a marker or a gauge. It shows where scouts take clear chances, and in the case of Juolevi, where they get burned by taking those chances.

No one thought Juolevi was better than Tkachuk. No one. That’s as clear a miss as it gets, then and now.

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As for Hughes, my one comparable would have been Boqvist. I thought he might be just as good. So far, that’s not looking likely. Hughes has shattered all reasonable expectations.

 

[Jyrki21]

I haven't gotten to watch many actual games this year, but there's something to be said for the huge impact on the team's fortunes that he's brought. Obviously some of that is internal improvement from certain guys (probably Markström above all, and possibly Pettersson in subtle ways), but there is something to be said for an impact defenseman changing the face of a blueline.

Right before his goal against San Jose, if you watch the NBC highlights, the commentator says "look at the skating... look at the goal!" He's referring to this nifty pivot:

 

[I am toxic]

I haven't gotten to watch many actual games this year, but there's something to be said for the huge impact on the team's fortunes that he's brought. Obviously some of that is internal improvement from certain guys (probably Markström above all, and possibly Pettersson in subtle ways), but there is something to be said for an impact defenseman changing the face of a blueline.

Right before his goal against San Jose, if you watch the NBC highlights, the commentator says "look at the skating... look at the goal!" He's referring to this nifty pivot:

Damn you! I have spent the last several minutes hypnotized watching that looping over and over again instead of doing the dishes.

 

[I am toxic]

Aaaaaand I'm doing it again.

Damn you! Damn you to hell!

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

The Staal brothers did it.

Eric (2nd overall)
Jordan (2nd overall)
Marc (12th overall)

ron (4), rich (10), brandon (11), duane (17), brent (17), and brian sutter (20)

...and darryl (179)

 

[Teflon Jim]

Pronger . . . Hughes . . . yes, yes I see the similarity

Hughes and Bure with his atomic elbow is the one to match up

 

[UK Canuck]

Quinn Hughes: Greatest living human

 

[Icebreakers]

We need to keep Tanev. Him and Quinn are perfect for each other.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Lol!....I remember when the 'book' on Quinn Hughes was that he might struggle with the physicality of NHL forwards, and that his shot was 'average' to 'below average'. So much for that.

The thing that still shocks me is how wiry kids like Pettersson and Hughes can rifle the puck......I don't know if it's the composite sticks, or whether it's just years of refining their shooting technique. But imo Hughes is shooting the puck a lot harder now than he was at even the start of the season.

Maybe Pettersson has given him a couple of pointers. Petey broke down his own shot into 12 things to refine. That must be for all types of shots though.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I wonder how much of Hughes' success can be attributed to being paired with Tanev. You'd think with most other partners, he'd likely spend more time defending and have less points as a result.

It's a fairly similar pairing to the Rielly - Tanev pairing at the WC a few years back when they weren't on the ice for a goal against all tournament.

 

[Melvin]

I wonder how much of Hughes' success can be attributed to being paired with Tanev. You'd think with most other partners, he'd likely spend more time defending and have less points as a result.

It's a fairly similar pairing to the Rielly - Tanev pairing at the WC a few years back when they weren't on the ice for a goal against all tournament.

I don't know. I have him with about twice as many points playing with Myers in half the ice time. But basically all of his 5v5 goals have come with Tanev, so that's interesting.

 

[M2Beezy]

I can’t believe he’s all ours.

 

[Jyrki21]

Here is a hypothetical I posted to Twitter – if Quinn Hughes played identically to how he has to date, and with an identical impact on the team's fortunes (both in how the team plays and the actual results), but just happened to be 6'3"... would he then be characterized as a "tantalizing but frustrating player who doesn't fully use his size"?

I feel that Hockey Men™ are unable to get past a large player not being physical enough even where he's otherwise effective rather than focusing exclusively on results (see: how Tryamkin was handled, or any number of power forwards). But if it was accompanied by a lot of offensive output, which is not often the case, would they calm down and appreciate that the guy is really good? Someone raised Dougie Hamilton fitting this mold as an example.

 

[PG Canuck]

Here is a hypothetical I posted to Twitter – if Quinn Hughes played identically to how he has to date, and with an identical impact on the team's fortunes (both in how the team plays and the actual results), but just happened to be 6'3"... would he then be characterized as a "tantalizing but frustrating player who doesn't fully use his size"?

I feel that Hockey Men™ are unable to get past a large player not being physical enough even where he's otherwise effective rather than focusing exclusively on results (see: how Tryamkin was handled, or any number of power forwards). But if it was accompanied by a lot of offensive output, which is not often the case, would they calm down and appreciate that the guy is really good? Someone raised Dougie Hamilton fitting this mold as an example.

Before I even finished reading your post, Dougie Hamilton popped into my head right away. Hamilton is beloved in Carolina and I really haven't seen any gripes with him not being more physical on their board. As long as he is leading the charge on the backend, there isn't much to complain about - he was in talks for the Norris, how could you be upset with his play?

I think the days of a bigger player NEEDING to be physical is going away rather quick, actually. If you can be an effective player without it, should anyone really care? Besides, being uber-physical takes a toll on a players body. Dishing out hits can typical take a bigger chunk out of yourself rather than the actual player being hit.

The NHL regular season isn't even that physical, it's pretty passive play for the most part.

 

[Diversification]

Before I even finished reading your post, Dougie Hamilton popped into my head right away. Hamilton is beloved in Carolina and I really haven't seen any gripes with him not being more physical on their board. As long as he is leading the charge on the backend, there isn't much to complain about - he was in talks for the Norris, how could you be upset with his play?

I think the days of a bigger player NEEDING to be physical is going away rather quick, actually. If you can be an effective player without it, should anyone really care? Besides, being uber-physical takes a toll on a players body. Dishing out hits can typical take a bigger chunk out of yourself rather than the actual player being hit.

The NHL regular season isn't even that physical, it's pretty passive play for the most part.

There’s so little time and opportunity to be physical now. If you go out of your way to lay someone out, you run the very real risk of putting yourself out of position and coughing up a scoring chance. That’s why someone like M Tkachuk is so valuable. He can hit regularly and still be effective. Hopefully Pod works out the same way.