Player Discussion Quinn Hughes, Pt. VI

[krutovsdonut]

pretty good thread in prospect section analysing the 2018 draft and how hughes fell based on this athletic article. it would appear we had hughes 3rd and we got him at 7th because the teams ahead of us other than detroit each had their own unique favourites available.

habs were on kotka
sens were on tkachuk
yotes had hayton 3rd before tkachuk
wings had bouchard and dobson ahead of hughes so they were never taking him.

sounds like canucks had hayton after hughes


'That was a home run': The inside story of how Quinn Hughes...

What happened at the top of the 2018 draft

 

[bossram]

pretty good thread in prospect section analysing the 2018 draft and how hughes fell based on this athletic article. it would appear we had hughes 3rd and we got him at 7th because the teams ahead of us other than detroit each had their own unique favourites available.

habs were on kotka
sens were on tkachuk
yotes had hayton 3rd before tkachuk
wings had bouchard and dobson ahead of hughes so they were never taking him.

sounds like canucks had hayton after hughes


'That was a home run': The inside story of how Quinn Hughes...

What happened at the top of the 2018 draft

That was a fantastic story from Harman Dayal.

Hughes was 3rd on my personal board (good scouting! ). I was over the moon he was available at 7. And he's more than exceeded expectations.

Finally, the true franchise defenseman this team has needed.

 

[Star Ocean]

People need to remember that Makar has an additional year of development over Hughes. What Hughes is doing as a 20-year-old rookie defenseman is unprecedented in the modern NHL.

Well dahlin was 18 and scored over 40p on a bad team.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I don’t see the great one complementing Cale Makar

 

[Hansen]

Well dahlin was 18 and scored over 40p on a bad team.

Dahlin is still the best defenceman of the 2018 draft IMO.

But the pipeline of guys who have suddenly came through like him, Makar, Hughes, its pretty incredible. This is potentially 3 PPG dmen joining the league in just 2 years. When has there ever been that many in such a short period?

Hughes is going to get big money on his next contract

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

it’s next to meaningless but i’m still tickled that quinn led the all-star game in scoring (tied w pasta, drai, and tkachuk)

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Dahlin is still the best defenceman of the 2018 draft IMO.

But the pipeline of guys who have suddenly came through like him, Makar, Hughes, its pretty incredible. This is potentially 3 PPG dmen joining the league in just 2 years. When has there ever been that many in such a short period?

Hughes is going to get big money on his next contract

Makar was drafted 2017 #4

 

[Hansen]

Makar was drafted 2017 #4

yeah but he entered the league this year with Hughes, just like Dahlin did last year, that's a two year span

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

6 points in 2 all star games? What a bum

 

[Knight53]

Hughes is better than Dahlin right now but Dahlin has a slightly higher ceiling due to his physical tools IMO.

Either way, getting potentially the best player in back to back drafts at the most significant positions saved this franchise.

 

[VanJack]

Dahlin is still the best defenceman of the 2018 draft IMO.

But the pipeline of guys who have suddenly came through like him, Makar, Hughes, its pretty incredible. This is potentially 3 PPG dmen joining the league in just 2 years. When has there ever been that many in such a short period?

Hughes is going to get big money on his next contract

It may be just the dreaded 'sophomore slump' but Dahlin isn't having a fraction of the impact for the Sabres that Quinn Hughes is having for the Canucks. So Dahlin may still be the best d-man in the 2018 draft--but not this year.

 

[Breakers]

I'm going to have to concede, and admit I was wrong with Hughes and Myers

I was Team Tanev/Hughes
but Myers/Hughes have some impressive underlying numbers

 

[Raistlin]

It may be just the dreaded 'sophomore slump' but Dahlin isn't having a fraction of the impact for the Sabres that Quinn Hughes is having for the Canucks. So Dahlin may still be the best d-man in the 2018 draft--but not this year.

I need to watch Dahlin longer to say QH passed him, coming into this year, my concern with QH is that he is too small to play all situations, I'm genuinely surprised Green just played the heck out of him Torts style. I have no problem annointing QH a #1D in his rookie year now. But Dahlin has the potential to dominate on all aspects night in night out, and is 1 year younger. I believe he is just slumping, his ceiling is still a tier above Hughes. Right now its a triumvirate situation when it comes to next gen PPQB, and a five horse race when it comes to all purpose #1D with Heiskanen/Chabot.

 

[EXTRAS]

Canucks record for most points in a season by a defenseman is held by Doug Lidster in 1986-87 where he scored 62 points (he never scored over 40 points in any other season), where he was 7th in NHL dman scoring.

Not great for a team that's coming up on its 50th season.

But Hark! Young Quinn is on pace for 57 points as a rookie! Finally Vancouver has offense from the defense!

 

[Bougieman]

With his 2 points tonight against the Sharks, he's back into second in rookie scoring behind Makar, and also breaks into the top 10 scoring for defencemen, rookie or otherwise. What a season.

 

[sting101]

That goal he scored tonight was absolutely unreal. 90% of players would have had to dump it in. Hughes does a reverse pivot...sharks player smashes into boards trying to check him then he walks the line pulls it in and cranks it top corner...just wow

 

[Fatass]

Yes Hughes is a phenom, but how lucky was JB that 6 other teams were stupid? It’s more like Hughes fell into J.b’s Lao then he was some genius.

 

[Fatass]

yeah but he entered the league this year with Hughes, just like Dahlin did last year, that's a two year span

Dahlin is not as impactful as Hughes or Makar. In fact, imo, Heisksnen is better than ?Dahlin. I’d say .dahlin is behind ?Hughes, ?Makar, and Heiskanen. There is something seriously wrong in ?Buffalo.

 

[VanJack]

Canucks pull even with the Avalanche in the standings....and Hughes with a two point night is now one point back of Makar. He's been good for the Av's all right, but Hughes has been better.

He's doing something every night to individually change the outcome of games for the Canucks.....only 20 years old. A true franchise-changing d-man. The other teams who drafted six players ahead of him in the first round must be feeling a little queasy. Finally, the Canucks catch a serious break in the 2018 draft.

 

[EXTRAS]

Dahlin is not as impactful as Hughes or Makar. In fact, imo, Heisksnen is better than ?Dahlin. I’d say .dahlin is behind ?Hughes, ?Makar, and Heiskanen. There is something seriously wrong in ?Buffalo.

I don't think anyone has to worry about a 19 year old dman on pace for 55 points and is considered to be having a "down year."

Dahlin will be just fine in a couple years. He's younger than hughes/makar/heiskanen. Even if his defensive game never really develops and he "only" becomes a 65 point a year offensive dman, that's certainly nothing to sneeze at as Vancouver has never had a 65 point dman in its 50 year history...

 

[Fatass]

Canucks pull even with the Avalanche in the standings....and Hughes with a two point night is now one point back of Makar. He's been good for the Av's all right, but Hughes has been better.

He's doing something every night to individually change the outcome of games for the Canucks.....only 20 years old. A true franchise-changing d-man. The other teams who drafted six players ahead of him in the first round must be feeling a little queasy. Finally, the Canucks catch a serious break in the 2018 draft.

All true, but does .j.b get credit, or do the other six teams missing on ?Hughes get crap?

 

[Fatass]

I don't think anyone has to worry about a 19 year old dman on pace for 55 points and is considered to be having a "down year."

Dahlin will be just fine in a couple years. He's younger than hughes/makar/heiskanen. Even if his defensive game never really develops and he "only" becomes a 65 point a year offensive dman, that's certainly nothing to sneeze at as Vancouver has never had a 65 point dman in its 50 year history...

I totally agree, but clearly ?Hughes is the more impactful player.

 

[EXTRAS]

I totally agree, but clearly ?Hughes is the more impactful player.

For now.

 

[Bertuzzzi44]

Kid is unreal. He would be more effective in a traditional 2 Dman PP setup as he’s so good along the boards and has elite playmaking ability, with the current setup his only options are to pass it to EP & Boeser or Shoot. Hughes is Elite.

 

[Fatass]

For now.

Yup. Something is way wrong in ?Buffalo. Dahlin was looking very frustrated intheir loss to Ottawa.