Question about Berube

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  1. ArchieIsGod

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    Hey, everyone now that Berube is our coach I've been hearing a lot of people making comments that it will be Bullies 2.0. I'm hoping someone that watched a lot of the Phantoms when he was their head coach can shed some light on what kind of coaching style we can expect to see. Are his playing days influencing peoples opinion of him as a coach or should we expect dump and chase, grind em out kinda team? I'm hoping he just emphasises defense first and doesn't try to bring a Bullies type team.
     
  2. LegionOfDoom91

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    They're likely just basing it off of his playing days. I didn't watch the Phantoms back then nor do I remember it but in his only full season as a coach there his team made the playoffs.
     
  3. SgtJoseph*

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    I wish bullies 2.0 was on the horizon for our club, but those days are looooooong gone sadly !
     
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    I think Berube is a lot smarter than some people are giving him credit for. He understands that the future of hockey is speed (he said as much in his interview).

    I also heard him mention playing a system much like Boston's which has me really excited... but it will take a while before the team is used to the system change.
     
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    Berube knows his hockey and I hope he gets this team to play some smarter hockey than we seen the last couple of years.
     
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    Berube played the game he knew how to play and was good at. Just because he was a tough guy that was limited in scoring, doesn't mean he's going to turn all 25 guys into goons.
     
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    A simple defensive system that is adaptable is all this team needs, if Chief and Paddock can do that, then I think we can sail this ship a little smoother.
     
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    If the indications are correct and we are going towards a 'Boston' kind of system I am ecstatic.

    It is far 'simpler' in essence, and makes sure players are defensively responsible, pretty much 2-3 neutral zone by my reckoning, sometimes 2---1-2, but with the opportunity for the centre to have a lot of space if there is a turnover.

    I think it suits the Flyers as well, we have an immobile back end (overall) without an elite puckmover (well, Kimmo and Streit can, but not elitely any-more.) But pretty elite offensive talent, especially at centre, and it creates scoring opportunities through pressure and turnovers... we don't get many defensive player end to end rushes anyway, so the old way (Lavis system) of doing it effectively left 2 players unused in the neutral zone (our D) when they are supposed to be the crux of our old 'system'.

    Tbf it is pretty similar but with a few tweaks to how the Flyers played at the end of last year.

    The Bruins make sure all three of the top lines share a defensive workload as well, especially in terms of QoC, this should help Couts and Schenn grow, and put pressure on opponents slightly more evenly, as some nights last year teams just rode out our 1st line and beat us with match-ups.

    Hopefully we play against a 1-3-1 the way the Bruins do as well. We have the personnel!

    That was the thing that frustrates me most when we come up against a 1-3-1 and look awful, is that we have the perfect forwards to counter it... on each line of our first two lines!

    1 great passer (Giroux, Lecav)
    1 board battler (Hartnell, Simmonds)
    1 fast player (Voracek, Read/Schenn)

    So if the Flyers played an intelligent dump and chase the personnel are balanced perfectly on paper to beat a trap.

    Giroux or Lecav accurate dump, or bank off Hartnell/Simmonds, with Voracek, Read or Schenn as the 'Gunner', hitting the line with speed to pressure the defender and let the other wing come up as well. After doing that a few times the defender pressing up in the 1-3-1 has to cheat and move closer to their own blueline and the boards... thus creating more space through the middle.
     
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    I think most of his nay-sayers are harkening back to his playing days, he was a limited talented player who used his fists more than his hands when playing. He used to stir things up with his mouth too, ( can't wait til he argues with that **** Bylsma).
    Chief is a better coach than people give him credit for. He understands how the game is played today, and will do his best to get the most out of his players.
    He also won't be afraid to insert the young players into the game, which is cool, since the organization does have some decent talent within the system that hasn't been tapped into.
     
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    I would be ecstatic if we had a Chara vs Hal Gill....

    Having said this, I do agree that Berube might surprise and seems pretty smart about hockey. Like somebody said..a guy with his limited skill and talents has to know how to think the game to have the staying power he did in the league as an enforcer primarily. Also, teams like Calgary and Washington always welcomed him with open arms..says a lot about his character. I think the players will respect him and play for him but yeah he'll have to back it up with a gameplan to sustain that respect and get the buy in..something Lavi failed to do when he couldn't adjust.
     
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    Big mistake signing Berube without proving himself, interim till he gets the team winning and than sign Berube to an extension. If this doesn't work get someone in to coach.
     
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    Soooo... it's not possible to fire him after the season, if they don't get to the playoffs?
     
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    Course the Flyers can fire him but he still will be collecting a new contract, another money waste. I guess wasting money is what the Flyers like to do...
     
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    Who cares, it's not your money, and unless I'm oblivious to some obscure cap rule, it doesn't affect the cap situation at all.

    I also think it's premature to write someone off based on their playing style. Coaching =/= playing. And usually the less talented guys make good coaches because they got where they did by understanding the game.
     
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    Berube looks like the right man to coach the Flyers

    This was an inspirational article....I'm just looking forward to seeing some hockey where the players care....losing sucks but it is how you lose that kills me.


     
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    That sounds kinda like Dale Hunter.
     
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    was thinking the same thing, but thankfully berube has a full season in the AHL under his belt and many years as an NHL assistant. he's not jumping straight from juniors to the NHL. #optimism?
     
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    At least Hunter reached the conference semi-finals.
     
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    players need to know that he will be there coach and they are not waiting for another guy to step in. There has to be some level of stability.

    i wonder what lappy and paddock's influence will be with personnel. Both have spent a lot of time with the Phantoms so I wonder if McGinn or Cousins get a shot.
     
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    I hope you're right, it will be a sad day if the Flyers go 0-4 tonight. Paddock will be a good asst as he has been a head coach twice in the NHL already. Lappy I'm unsure of, if he coaches like he plays.... great!
     
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    Craig Berube draws influence from Darryl Sutter

    Cup please?


    oh and this..right on!

     
  22. LegionOfDoom91

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    Hunter is a different case though, he could have easily been a coach in the AHL or NHL prior to last year if he wanted to. London is an amazing program because of him & his brother. It's more of him not really wanting to leave there than it is him not getting opportunities.

    I think Chief could be a good one though & have no complaints about the hire.
     
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    I wonder. Will our AHL players be playing the same system as the Flyers now? Could logic rule the day?!
     
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    Ha ha. The Flyers' payroll now is just about where it was before the FIRST lockout. They've been making windfall profits ever since. If you have to pay off a goalie or a coach, so what? Yet people don't like Snider...
     
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    Terry Murray has been secretly teaching them to play a team D game, against Lavy's orders. :sarcasm:
     

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