Quenneville...

[The Nuge]

Hawks fans called Q trash and wanted him gone. A bunch of Leafs fans want Babcock gone. If you look at the Jack Adams winners from 09/10-15/16, no coach is still with their team, and only 1 (Trotz) of those 7 is still an NHL head coach. Point is, the grass isn’t always greener, and most of the “top” coaches aren’t really any better than the guys right below them.

Todd has his flaws, like anyone, but he’s also the best coach we’ve had since Sather, and in the upper tier of NHL coaches.

 

[Cloned]

Todd has his flaws, like anyone,

Agreed.

but he’s also the best coach we’ve had since Sather,

Debatable. Prime MacTavish was pretty comparable to TM now.

and in the upper tier of NHL coaches.

Also debatable.

I think guys like Cooper, Sullivan, Trotz, Laviolette and Cassidy are clearly better than him.

He's probably in the same tier as Babcock (who is overrated), Maurice, Julien, Hitchcock and Quenneville. Changing from TM to Joe Q is fairly lateral IMO.

 

[The Nuge]

Agreed.


Debatable. Prime MacTavish was pretty comparable to TM now.

Ya that’s fair. MacT was very good at his peak. I considered mentioning him, but Todd will likely end as the more winning of the 2, which will help tilt the scales imo. The point is more that we’ve had 12 coaches (5 of which came between MacT and McLellan), and we can only confidently say one is better. That’s pretty telling imo that it’s not the time to make a knee jerk reaction

Also debatable.

I think guys like Cooper, Sullivan, Trotz, Laviolette and Cassidy are clearly better than him.

He's probably in the same tier as Babcock (who is overrated), Maurice, Julien, Hitchcock and Quenneville. Changing from TM to Joe Q is fairly lateral IMO.

By that I mean, if you split the league into 2 or 3 tiers, he belongs in the top group. Not necessarily that he’s top 2 in the league or anything

 

[Joey Moss]

Hawks fans called Q trash and wanted him gone. A bunch of Leafs fans want Babcock gone. If you look at the Jack Adams winners from 09/10-15/16, no coach is still with their team, and only 1 (Trotz) of those 7 is still an NHL head coach. Point is, the grass isn’t always greener, and most of the “top” coaches aren’t really any better than the guys right below them.

Todd has his flaws, like anyone, but he’s also the best coach we’ve had since Sather, and in the upper tier of NHL coaches.

How are you determining this? He's had the best roster on paper to work with since the Sather days.

 

[belair]

I'd drive McLellan to the airport and pick up Quenneville myself.

'Why are you driving me to the airport? I live here.'

 

[BlackDogg]

'Why are you driving me to the airport? I live here.'

Take him to the airport anyway. Time for a holiday.

 

[GodPucker]

Hawks fans called Q trash and wanted him gone. A bunch of Leafs fans want Babcock gone. If you look at the Jack Adams winners from 09/10-15/16, no coach is still with their team, and only 1 (Trotz) of those 7 is still an NHL head coach. Point is, the grass isn’t always greener, and most of the “top” coaches aren’t really any better than the guys right below them.

Todd has his flaws, like anyone, but he’s also the best coach we’ve had since Sather, and in the upper tier of NHL coaches.

But but, A guy like Q will make Lucic's hands better! Pool Party a better thinker! Probably wave his magic wand and get Strome scoring and have our D actually get pucks through to the net.

Doesn't matter who is behind the bench. If you have bad payers, you are most likely going to be bad in the end.

 

[Niten Ichi Ryu]

He's the new hot chick on the block. Only a matter of time before someone picks him up. If given the choice, I actually think he would choose Edmonton. He's called McDavid and Draisaitl 'real dangerous weapons' on a number of occasions. He's a championship caliber coach, McLellan is not, not even close. If Oiler's losing streak hits 4, I think it's a no-brainer

 

[Cloned]

He's the new hot chick on the block. Only a matter of time before someone picks him up. If given the choice, I actually think he would choose Edmonton. He's called McDavid and Draisaitl 'real dangerous weapons' on a number of occasions. He's a championship caliber coach, McLellan is not, not even close. If Oiler's losing streak hits 4, I think it's a no-brainer

McLellan bought himself at least the entire month of November with that 8-4-1 start.

 

[I am the Liquor]

Honestly I don’t think he would be interested in coming here. He can pick and choose where he goes. It almost certainly won’t be Winterfell and our toxic owner/front office.

 

[Beerad]

Why, so everyone can complain about him? Regardless of who would be hired the same thing would happen here.

 

[Soul8]

Has Stauffer had much to say about him? He tends to have his finger on the pulse

 

[Soundwave]

I think probably he'll sign in St. Louis.

 

[Alberta]

McLellan bought himself at least the entire month of November with that 8-4-1 start.

As well he should. The Oilers had a terrible schedule to start the season. Most fans had them with 3-4 wins.

 

[780il]

No brainer.

Call up Yzerman and beg him to come along as well.

 

[Alberta]

Don't see why teams don't just trade coaches just like players get traded.

Not sure if it's even possible in the current CBA (probably not) but Quebec did trade their coach, Michel Bergeron, to the Rangers 30 or so years ago.

 

[ZJuice]

Todd Nelson

 

[bone]

The thing is that there aren't many coaches that win Stanley Cups with different teams. The only one in modern history I can think of Bowman, and that isn't even all that modern anymore. Much like there aren't any GMs who win cups with different teams.

If we move on from Todd, which I'm fine with, we have to find the next guy, not the one that did it and gradually faded away.

 

[ujju2]

I wouldn't do it. Don't really like what Hawks fans have been saying about Q for quite a while now. Sounds like more of the same at best. I'm willing to give McLellan his chance.

 

[Canovin]

I wouldn't do it. Don't really like what Hawks fans have been saying about Q for quite a while now. Sounds like more of the same at best. I'm willing to give McLellan his chance.

3 cups vs none. Not exactly the same.

 

[ujju2]

3 cups vs none. Not exactly the same.

At this point it is. In fact based on some things I've heard from Hawks fans (take it with a grain of salt, of course), sounds almost like Q has lost some of his desire to win the cup again. I'd rather hang on to McLellan and see if the team makes the playoffs (I expect they will). If they miss, hire the best option in the offseason.

 

[ujju2]

Agreed.

Debatable. Prime MacTavish was pretty comparable to TM now.

Also debatable.
I think guys like Cooper, Sullivan, Trotz, Laviolette and Cassidy are clearly better than him.
He's probably in the same tier as Babcock (who is overrated), Maurice, Julien, Hitchcock and Quenneville. Changing from TM to Joe Q is fairly lateral IMO.

Agreed on basically all accounts. Though I'm not quite sure I'd have Cooper in the top list.

 

[ujju2]

But but, A guy like Q will make Lucic's hands better! Pool Party a better thinker! Probably wave his magic wand and get Strome scoring and have our D actually get pucks through to the net.

Doesn't matter who is behind the bench. If you have bad payers, you are most likely going to be bad in the end.

I don't even think the team is bad, but I agree. I wouldn't blame TMac for much of anything so far this season. Actually, I wouldn't need to, because overall the season's going fine.

 

[Canovin]

At this point it is. In fact based on some things I've heard from Hawks fans (take it with a grain of salt, of course), sounds almost like Q has lost some of his desire to win the cup again. I'd rather hang on to McLellan and see if the team makes the playoffs (I expect they will). If they miss, hire the best option in the offseason.

Every time I watch Mclellan, I feel he's lost the locker room some time ago. A change of coach is needed. I'd rather go with the coach with the best track record.

The idea of coaching the best player in the world will bring new desire

 

[ujju2]

Every time I watch Mclellan, I feel he's lost the locker room some time ago. A change of coach is needed. I'd rather go with the coach with the best track record.

The idea of coaching the best player in the world will bring new desire

And therein lies the difference. I just haven't gotten that feel from him yet. It felt like it a bit last year, but to me it feels like the new assistants this year have allowed him to take back the room. Hence why I don't see hiring Quenneville as much more than a lateral move.