Quarter Season Update...Rank the Canadian Teams

[Fishboy*]

I think the rankings have shuffled a bit since the start of the season. Let's try this again. Mostly I think Edmonton has fallen below expectations and Calgary has exceeded them - but let's see what the consensus is.

1. Toronto

2. Calgary
3. Winnipeg

4. Montreal

5. Vancouver
6. Edmonton
7. Ottawa (but they are doing well considering everything).

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[Jets]

Don’t see it but I know Location: Ontario

 

[crackdown44]

Still think Winnipeg has an edge over Calgary and is up there with Toronto despite standings. Calgary can join this group if they work their goaltending out and separate themselves in the pacific a bit more

Toronto
Winnipeg

Calgary

Montreal

Edmonton
Vancouver
Ottawa

 

[FalcorMulch]

NHL Hockey Standings

But seriously:

Toronto
Winnipeg
Calgary
Montreal
Edmonton
Vancouver
Ottawa

Edit: Actually that's just the standings arranged by points per game. So I stand by my first comment.

 

[blankall]

LOL. Toronto has 4 more point and 2 games in hand on Winnipeg. Don't know how that puts them into an entirely different tier.

Winnipeg/Toronto
Calgary

Montreal

The rest.

 

[Fishboy*]

Don’t see it but I know Location: Ontario

Nope.

 

[FalcorMulch]

LOL. Toronto has 4 more point and 2 games in hand on Winnipeg. Don't know how that puts them into an entirely different tier.

Winnipeg/Toronto
Calgary

Montreal

The rest.

So they're ahead in points and points per game on the season and better in their last 10 and last 5 but it's a tie?

 

[blankall]

So they're ahead in points and points per game on the season and better in their last 10 and last 5 but it's a tie?

Toronto is ahead in PPG by a very small margin. You're literally talking about less than a 1 game difference. Winnipeg has 13 points in their last 10 games and Toronto has 14.

WTF?

 

[8816 others]

The tie breaker should be their respective records against each other.

The strength of the conferences should also factor in. Its a little easier to earn points when the competition is crap.

 

[FalcorMulch]

Toronto is ahead in PPG by a very small margin. You're literally talking about less than a 1 game difference. Winnipeg has 13 points in their last 10 games and Toronto has 14.

WTF?

So they're unambiguously better right now. A ranking doesn't say anything about how much better. It's just a list from top to bottom.

 

[Paris in Flames]

Toronto is ahead in PPG by a very small margin. You're literally talking about less than a 1 game difference. Winnipeg has 13 points in their last 10 games and Toronto has 14.

WTF?

Toronto also beat Winnipeg in back to back games.

The edge goes to Toronto.

 

[Echo Roku]

So they're unambiguously better right now. A ranking doesn't say anything about how much better. It's just a list from top to bottom.

Lol, what?

It’s a small enough margin that saying one is better as a result is silly

 

[blankall]

So they're unambiguously better right now. A ranking doesn't say anything about how much better. It's just a list from top to bottom.

If we are looking at points alone...and using a statistically non-significant difference? I don't think you know what the word "unambiguously" means.

 

[Kelly]

Nylander and Matthews once added are going to make the Leafs a scary team, and is a big reason why I have them slightly above Winnipeg ATM.

Toronto
Winnipeg

Calgary
Montreal

Edmonton
Vancouver

Senators

4 different tiers of team, IMO.

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

Oilers: pooooooooooooooo

 

[blankall]

Toronto also beat Winnipeg in back to back games.

The edge goes to Toronto.

Both games were close.

And Calgary beat both Toronto and Winnipeg this season...I suppose that makes them better than both?

 

[Paris in Flames]

Both games were close.

And Calgary beat both Toronto and Winnipeg this season...I suppose that makes them better than both?

That's not completely relevant though. If we're all agreeing that Toronto and Winnipeg are at worst...close..then head to head is the natural tie breaker is it not?

 

[Kamiccolo]

LOL. Toronto has 4 more point and 2 games in hand on Winnipeg. Don't know how that puts them into an entirely different tier.

Winnipeg/Toronto
Calgary

Montreal

The rest.

Now consider the Leafs have been missing Matthews / Nylander for most of the season (Nylander all of it) and it's not really close.

 

[blankall]

That's not completely relevant though. If we're all agreeing that Toronto and Winnipeg are at worst...close..then head to head is the natural tie breaker is it not?

No. This is the NHL. When you have two teams playing equally, and the games are very close, that suggests that the teams are equal. 2 games is not a significant sample size in the NHL.

Once again, does this mean that Calgary is better than both Winnipeg and Toronto, as they've won both games against them?

 

[Critical13]

I would have Toronto, Calgary and Winnipeg all tied up at #1.

Toronto/Calgary/Winnipeg
Montreal
Ottawa
Edmonton
Vancouver

 

[Damisoph]

these threads always go well

 

[flamesforcup]

Consider the fact that the leafs got kicked out in the first round and Winnipeg made the conference finals while also beating Nashville it should be obvious who is better. Regular season matchups are great but playoffs mean more or else u can argue Flames are better than both teams since we beat them. Leafs fans saying they are better than the Jets cause of 2 regular season games have such a short memory. I remember them saying they were easily going to beat Boston in round 1 because they swept them or something in the regular season. We all know how that turned out.

 

[blankall]

Now consider the Leafs have been missing Matthews / Nylander for most of the season (Nylander all of it) and it's not really close.

Now consider that Laine got off to a slow start. Teams look equal to me.

 

[LeafGrief]

Leafs sit 4th in the league and have been missing Matthews and Nylander for a significant portion of the year. Adding Tavares plus Rielly and Andersen playing out of their minds puts the Leafs at 1st in today's rankings, despite the Jets being the better team last year. The Jets have an extremely potent roster but haven't been playing their best hockey for most of the season so far. At the end of the day, I don't think much separates either team. Andersen and Rielly will likely cool down somewhat and the Jets are hoping for better play from key contributors like Ehlers and Hellebyuck. I consider both teams strong contenders.

1. Toronto
2. Winnipeg

Pretty big gap

3. Calgary

4. Montreal
5. Edmonton
6. Vancouver
7. Ottawa

Calgary is really the only other Canadian team who's got a shot at the playoffs this year IMO. The Habs have done very well in the beginning of the year with Domi being a revelation. I considered them the worst of the bunch going into the year and they've really done well to prove me wrong. They've started to cooldown a bit, which was to be expected, though getting Weber back might give them another shot in the arm. Rebuilding is still their best bet, but adding Domi and Suzuki to their org was fantastic. Edmonton is a disaster feat. McDavid, Vancouver needs a lot more pieces, and Ottawa is... full of Leafs fans right now tbh.

 

[Kamiccolo]

Now consider that Laine got off to a slow start. Teams look equal to me.

How in the f*** does him having a slow start somehow equal to the Leafs missing a top line winger and a franchise center? I'm actually curious about this to hear how you somehow think a guy playing the games but sucking is equal to missing TWO guys (one of which is vastly better than Laine on his best day)