Confirmed with Link: Quaider dealt to Rangers for Kampfer and a 4th

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He made an offer they signed...How hard is it to do. Both players wanted to be here. How hard is it to give guys 6 or 7 million bucs and they say yes ? Lets not make it like he went through these hard negotiations.
What does this have to do with the McQuaid deal? Because if the answer is “nothing” then I suggest you post it in a more appropriate thread.
 

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I find the irony of the toughness brigade throwing an internet temper tantrum over this move quite amusing. The Bruins might not be the softest team in the NHL, but sometimes it's fanbase sure is.

In my estimation, McQuaid was at best the #7 d-man, and #8 depending on matchups. He was going to be spending a lot of time in the press box this season. I would have pegged him going for a 3rd to a playoff team, so a potentially high 4th + 7th + waivable extra body seems about right. They could have held on to him until the deadline and gotten that third I bet, but there's also value in opening up the spot for the AHL D to get a few games here and there. So the gamble was waiting for a slightly better pick or deal him now so rookies can get some games and you avoid pissing off a guy that has put himself through a wall for this team by making him sit in a contract year.
Who is going to give you a 3rd rounder for a guy that sits in the press box every night.
 

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I think a big part of this trade was out of respect for McQuaid and to let him play in a contract year. It may not make sense from a Bruins perspective right now if the cap savings are not used but kudos to management for not making Adam sit around all season.

Hey how about that. Our crappy GM who wants wusses on the blue line might actually care about his players and do right by them. Like sending an odd man out in the d-corps to a team where he will be getting regular minutes in a contract year and not forcing him to sit in Hayes' office every night and wish he was out there. Maybe McQuaid or his agent asked for a trade if he wasn't going to play much here? Oh no, nothing like that, it is just chicken Don the wuss GM :laugh:
 

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Exactly.

The Bruins bottom 6, where most of the size was, was way too slow outside of Kuraly.

So you replace Schaller and Acciari (who I hope has a nice extended stay in the pressbox this season) with Nordstrom and Wagner and a young forward should help a lot in this regard.
I'm 100% with you. And I hope Acciari is the permanent 13th forward in that he doesn't see the ice while everyone is healthy.
 

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He made an offer they signed...How hard is it to do. Both players wanted to be here. How hard is it to give guys 6 or 7 million bucs and they say yes ? Lets not make it like he went through these hard negotiations.

How do you know what went on with those negotiations? You think it was just "here's your offer guys, take it or leave it" and that was that? They just were thankful for the offer and signed? If you're serious I'll debate this with you but you really can't be that disingenuous about contract negotiations can you?
 

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It’s no worse than letting Ference walk or trading Mark Stuart because they had a replacement (Mcquaid). That’s what happens, players get old and replaced. Mcquaid is a fan favorite so I think people are letting there emotions cloud their judgement, a path to the dark side.

Trading McQuaid isn't the issue - the cause is understandable.
However, trading him for free because of "feelings" is absurd.

Get a better asset or trade him at the deadline.
 

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I don’t like the deal, because it’s pointless. Because there are real holes on this roster and they haven’t been addressed all offseason.

I’m especially unhappy with it though, because I love Quaider and hate to see him gone. But if he was dealt to bring in help elsewhere, I’d likely be sad while complimenting management for a job well done.

Being excited and happy and lauding management for simply deleting is just as nonsense as some of the “toughness” hyperbole that’s being thrown around.
I’m still a believer that at least one of the young defense prospects will be ready to play some games this year and that would have been a lot harder with two extra defenseman in the press box. To me this is like trading Stuart to make room for Mcquaid, except it made room for Miller, Grzelcyk, Moore, and a prospect if they show they’re ready.

As much as I like Mcquaid he had the same issue as Mark Stuart, could never play his way above bottom pairing. He was great at it, but let’s not pretend he was a crucial part of the team. He was Mr. Reliable. A nice piece but at some point you have to make room for the kids.
 

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Trading McQuaid isn't the issue - the cause is understandable.
However, trading him for free because of "feelings" is absurd.

Get a better asset or trade him at the deadline.
I think the feeling was that since he'd be sitting in the pressbox an awful lot (assuming few or minor injuries) his value would only decrease. That's how i see it anyway.
 

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He made an offer they signed...How hard is it to do. Both players wanted to be here. How hard is it to give guys 6 or 7 million bucks and they say yes ? Lets not make it like he went through these hard negotiations.
With all due respect you weren't part of the negotiations as far as I know. Consider that superstars are commanding 10 plus Million a year right now and we have 3 of them signed for the next half decade for under 7. You might sluff this off as nothing but in a cap world that is huge. Your hatred towards Sweeny is quite obvious but try to give credit where credit is due. He traded our #8 defenceman for a 4rth rounder, conditional 7th rounder and depth dman for over 2 mil in cap space. As much as may like McQuaid for what he brought to the table night in and night out for many years, this was the right move for the organization.
 

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Trading McQuaid isn't the issue - the cause is understandable.
However, trading him for free because of "feelings" is absurd.

Get a better asset or trade him at the deadline.
If he was even healthy at the deadline, what would you trade for Mcquaid. He’s a solid bottom pairing defenseman. You’re not getting a 2nd for Mcquaid.
 

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I think the feeling was that since he'd be sitting in the pressbox an awful lot (assuming few or minor injuries) his value would only decrease. That's how i see it anyway.
Exactly. How is that conversation going to go. "You want a 3rd rounder for the guy that has been sitting up in the press box eating popcorn for the last 4 months? " lol
 

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Carlo a Wuss.....Moore a Wuss......Kampfer a Wuss.........Lets talk about the guys he has traded for or drafted. Not the guys he was lucky enough to get from Chiarelli. The criteria is SMALL or WUSSY.......Those three above fit the WUSS mold.

A few more trades and we become the SOFTEST team in hockey or close to it......Like i said. Big Fail here. McAvoy, DeBrusk.

Outside of that.....ZILCH.

Lets throw in John Micheal Liles........Cant forget that burly blue liner....4 guys he has bought in that cant break a wet paper bag...Moore plays smaller then Gryz and he is not even as good. What a waste of money.

He made an offer they signed...How hard is it to do. Both players wanted to be here. How hard is it to give guys 6 or 7 million bucs and they say yes ? Lets not make it like he went through these hard negotiations.

Well dont just spit in the wind. Tell me what was non factual about what i said ?
Every one of your posts above is nothing but opinion (misguided opinion, too if you ask me). It's literally all non-factual.
 

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I’m still a believer that at least one of the young defense prospects will be ready to play some games this year and that would have been a lot harder with two extra defenseman in the press box. To me this is like trading Stuart to make room for Mcquaid, except it made room for Miller, Grzelcyk, Moore, and a prospect if they show they’re ready.

As much as I like Mcquaid he had the same issue as Mark Stuart, could never play his way above bottom pairing. He was great at it, but let’s not pretend he was a crucial part of the team. He was Mr. Reliable. A nice piece but at some point you have to make room for the kids.

I didn’t think he was a critical part of the team. The Bruins don’t live or die on his presence.

But I do believe he brought positive things to the table. I do think he is a presence that will be missed. And I think he has more value than $2.75M in unused cap space.
 
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Exactly. How is that conversation going to go. "You want a 3rd rounder for the guy that has been sitting up in the press box eating popcorn for the last 4 months? " lol

True, but does that make Malkin a second line center and thus valued as such?

Hyperbole but do you see my point? I think (pending injury) teams know what McQuaid is.
 

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You talking about the trade, or the state of this thread in general? If about the trade, what don't you like about it?

I don't like the trade. If they use the money for a winger or a 3C I might be OK with it but this looks like a salary dump. They will want this player or one like him at the deadline and they'll have to pay. I understand the move but I don't like it and I wish it was done before September. I also wish he was sent further away.
 

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I didn’t think he was a critical part of the team. The Bruins don’t live or die on his presence.

But I do believe he brought positive things to the table. I do think he is a presence that will be missed. And I think he has more value than $2.75M in unused cap space.

Agree wholeheartedly unless of course that 2,75M is used to improve the team. To me this whole deal hinges on what happens next. If we get to trade deadline and we make a few minor changes and do use the cap I will be disappointed that we didn't hold on to Quaider as he brings a lot of intangibles to this team.
 
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