McKenzie: Puljujarvi has requested a trade [Part 2]

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Part 1: McKenzie: - Jesse Puljujarvi has requested a trade from Edmonton

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[Conbon]

CGY acquires Jesse Puljujärvi

EDM acquires Michael Frolík and a conditional 3rd in 2020 if Frolik doesn't re-sign


This assumes Edmonton isnt on Frolik's 10 team no trade list. Calgary sheds cap, clears space for some younger players to play up the lineup (Dube), and acquires a reclamation project.

Edmonton receives a strong defensive 3rd liner which Rishaug says Edmonton is looking for in a return for Puljujärvi and a conditional 3rd since Frolik only has 1 year left and Edmonton obviously doesn't want to be empty handed a year after trading a recent first rounder.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

I think you’d need to do better than that to get the Oilers to risk Puljujarvi realizing his potential in Calgary.

 

[Seachd]

The best part about Puljujarvi going to Europe if he's not traded is that the Oilers don't need to hurry to get rid of him. If his value is low to start with, holding him out won't change that.

Basically, I don't think this trade would be the one that convinces Holland to pull the trigger.

 

[Sparky93]

I think you’d need to do better than that to get the Oilers to risk Puljujarvi realizing his potential in Calgary.

You’re probably right, but if you guys get a Frolik caliber player, from someone else, you’ll be doing good.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

You’re probably right, but if you guys get a Frolik caliber player, from someone else, you’ll be doing good.

Maybe if he’d be around longer than a year, sure.

 

[treple13]

Absolutely not from Calgary. At this point I think Pulju has a ceiling of Frolik. Not giving a pick if Edmonton can't re-sign. That's on them

 

[Conbon]

Absolutely not from Calgary. At this point I think Pulju has a ceiling of Frolik. Not giving a pick if Edmonton can't re-sign. That's on them

I think the majority feel that Puljujärvi's ceiling is higher than a 3rd liner or he wouldn't have been picked so high and hyped up. The point of the trade is to shed cap space and if Puljujärvi becomes anything it's a bonus.

 

[treple13]

I think the majority feel that Puljujärvi's ceiling is higher than a 3rd liner or he wouldn't have been picked so high and hyped up. The point of the trade is to shed cap space and if Puljujärvi becomes anything it's a bonus.

Frolik right now is a decent second line player. Backlund/Tkachuk are better with him than without.

Maybe I'd consider if the conditional pick went the other way

 

[blankall]

Absolutely not from Calgary. At this point I think Pulju has a ceiling of Frolik. Not giving a pick if Edmonton can't re-sign. That's on them

I actually don't mind this. If Frolik was in his 20s on an ELC, the Flames wouldn't be moving him. Frolik is a cap casualty. If the Flames scouts think that Pulju can be even an effective bottom six player at this point, it's not a bad deal.

 

[Volica]

BT liked this kid in 2016.
Only way he ends up in Calgary is a Hoffman type trade.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

This seems unlikely for Edmonton to do, as a flames fan I'll take the risk he turns his game around. We need RW'ers more than anything. Since he needs to prove himself he would be pretty cost controlled (1.4M x2 was his projected).

 

[CraigsList]

As a Flames fan, sure because of the cap savings. With the cap savings alone doesn't make it worth it for Edmonton. I also think the pick is on the wrong side.

 

[crazyfisherman]

Was there reports saying they are looking for a 3rd line forward? Take Jankowski

 

[InfinityIggy]

I think you’d need to do better than that to get the Oilers to risk Puljujarvi realizing his potential in Calgary.

Yep. Way too risky for the Oilers and honestly doesn’t really help them in a meaningful way.

 

[Potty John]

Sign the paperwork as quick as possible if your Calgary. This would be a steal of a deal for us.

 

[Fazkovsky]

I would like habs to give him a chance

 

[Jamin]

So if its between UFAs, cap dumps and a 3rd round pick id rather just send him to Europe.

Can someone confirm but isnt it 6 more years till he would be UFA? If he wants to go that route fine with me. I can wait and I wouldnt be surprised in a year or two if his tone on coming back changes

 

[Saltcreek]

So if its between UFAs, cap dumps and a 3rd round pick id rather just send him to Europe.

Can someone confirm but isnt it 6 more years till he would be UFA? If he wants to go that route fine with me. I can wait and I wouldnt be surprised in a year or two if his tone on coming back changes

If he goes to Europe then the Oilers retain his rights for 6 more years. I think most fans are happy enough to let him go back to Europe rather than caving to his trade request.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

So if its between UFAs, cap dumps and a 3rd round pick id rather just send him to Europe.

Can someone confirm but isnt it 6 more years till he would be UFA? If he wants to go that route fine with me. I can wait and I wouldnt be surprised in a year or two if his tone on coming back changes

Pretty much my stance on this.
And mercifully, it seems to be echo'd by Holland.

 

[ottawa]

I would like habs to give him a chance

Habs have no room on the wings

Left wing
Tatar
Drouin
Poehling (assuming he plays #3 winger)
Lehkonen

Right wing
Gallagher
Shaw
Byron
Armia

We could fit him into the bottom 6 if we move Lehkonen (considering he sucks) but idk if Pulju would want that. Unless we stick Poehling on #4C and make room for pulju on the 3rd line.

 

[McBooya42]

Pretty much my stance on this.
And mercifully, it seems to be echo'd by Holland.

I'm liking Holand a lot so far....so refreshing for this org.

 

[thadd]

It's not just his preference to leave Edmonton. It's his preference to be traded somewhere where people will ignore his training and studying habits and give him preferential treatment. Just let him do things his way and hope it works out for him and that the coach can figure out what to do with him. Stay positive and I'm sure it'll all work out just like it did in Edmonton!

 

[Perfect_Drug]

It's not just his preference to leave Edmonton. It's his preference to be traded somewhere where he'll people will ignore his training and studying habits and give him preferential treatment. Just let him do things his way and hope it works out for him and that the coach can figure out what to do with him. Stay positive and I'm sure it'll all work out just like it did in Edmonton!

He's 21, and was obviously rushed into the league by shady under-dealings of an overly-aggressive agent.

Like most 21 year olds, this kid is likely going to mature, and gain some perspective.


Maybe he goes to Europe for a couple of years, and comes back a better person and a better hockey player at 23.

 

[McFlyingV]

So if its between UFAs, cap dumps and a 3rd round pick id rather just send him to Europe.

Can someone confirm but isnt it 6 more years till he would be UFA? If he wants to go that route fine with me. I can wait and I wouldnt be surprised in a year or two if his tone on coming back changes

6 years if he goes to Europe or 5 more years under NHL contract until he's UFA. So he either becomes a UFA in 5 years if he stays in Edmonton, or 6 if he spends at least 1 year in Europe.