Injury Report: #2: Nolan Patrick Migraine Disorder (Sep. 26, '19); 1-year $874,125 qualifying offer (Oct. 16, '20)

[David St Hubbins]

Morin got a cheap 3 year deal coming off a knee injury that would cause him to miss at least 1 season. He had not even close to established himself as an NHLer, with all of 3 games played. I don't even think I'd call that a "prove it" deal -- it was his actual value. Best case he might've cost himself a few hundred thousand in year 3.

Meanwhile, Nolan Patrick is an established NHL 3C. Migraine disorders are no joke, but it's not overly optimistic to think it can be manageable from here on out. It's unique and not comparable to an ACL tear. His floor is a 3C. His "prove it" deal would be moving forwards in his projections. I see no reason he locks himself into multiple cheap years. Unlike Morin, he banked an NHL salary on his ELC. I don't know what that 1 year cost would be......1.5 mil? But we could be talking millions lost by year 2, if he's healthy.

That is a well reasoned and intelligent objection.

 

[DancingPanther]

lock patrick up to an 8 year deal at a great value

This is what I always did on PS4. It's a great strat

 

[Deadpool8812]

Nah ELC & +35 contracts are the only ones that can be performance bonus laden.

Not true. A player that missed a certain amount of games the previous season due to injuries can also get a performance bonus contract

Corey Perry signed on this past summer with Dallas: Corey Perry - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Not true. A player that missed a certain amount of games the previous season due to injuries can also get a performance bonus contract

Corey Perry signed on this past summer with Dallas: Corey Perry - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

The player has signed a one-year contract after returning from a long-term injury (has played 400 or more games, and spent 100 or more days on the Injured Reserve in the last year of their most recent contract)

So yeah it is possible then. He should qualify for the second part. I can’t remember exactly when he was put on IR but if it was to open the season he well surpassed that at this point.

 

[Deadpool8812]

So yeah it is possible then. He should qualify for the second part. I can’t remember exactly when he was put on IR but if it was to open the season he well surpassed that at this point.

It says AND....Patrick hasnt played 400 NHL games

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

3 mill a year? I wonder if he would go for it.

The Flyers wouldn’t. Both financially & cap wise that really makes no sense to invest that much on a big question mark at this point.

 

[TheKingPin]

The Flyers wouldn’t. Both financially & cap wise that really makes no sense to invest that much on a big question mark at this point.

Probably not. It is a gamble. But imagine the payout if he ended up a very good 2C.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Probably not. It is a gamble. But imagine the payout if he ended up a very good 2C.

Yeah but it could just easily go the other way. There were issues there before the injury. It’s not like he was on some big upswing play wise. Now add in a serious injury & there’s just as much reason on the Flyers end to let it play out with a smaller commitment deal too.

 

[Philly Fanatik]

If Patrick could play through this ailment...he would’ve already!
Poor young fella might never get over this disorder...
Just goes to show ya that life has no guarantees and no best before dates...
Hope the kid just lives somewhat of a normal life...
I was selfish at first wanting him to come back this year but f*** it...more to life than hockey!

 

[Rebels57]

If Patrick could play through this ailment...he would’ve already!
Poor young fella might never get over this disorder...
Just goes to show ya that life has no guarantees and no best before dates...
Hope the kid just lives somewhat of a normal life...
I was selfish at first wanting him to come back this year but f*** it...more to life than hockey!

No point in being fatalistic.

 

[TheKingPin]

Yeah but it could just easily go the other way. There were issues there before the injury. It’s not like he was on some big upswing play wise. Now add in a serious injury & there’s just as much reason on the Flyers end to let it play out with a smaller commitment deal too.

Then you LTIR him. 3 mill is nothing these days anyway. I think it would be worth the deal. As much as a joke as it is.

 

[TheKingPin]

If Patrick could play through this ailment...he would’ve already!
Poor young fella might never get over this disorder...
Just goes to show ya that life has no guarantees and no best before dates...
Hope the kid just lives somewhat of a normal life...
I was selfish at first wanting him to come back this year but f*** it...more to life than hockey!

I think he could play and be fine tomorrow. It’s more likely he is just getting to more a little at a time and seeing if he’s “ok”

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Curufinwe]

Patrick wouldn't be smart to take anything more than a 1 year deal this summer

The Flyers wouldn't be smart to give him more than 1 year at $1,000,000.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[VladDrag]

I probably have gotten my hopes up too much at this point, but I am very excited at the way things are progress lately for Nolan.

 

[Tripod]

It does seem like he is ramping things up for a possible return this year.

He is going to play unless he suffers a setback. I believe that now.

 

[prototypical4thliner]

It does seem like he is ramping things up for a possible return this year.

He is going to play unless he suffers a setback. I believe that now.

I refuse to have the hope until he’s assigned for conditioning. I’ve been burned too many times before.

 

[FlyTimmo]

Loving the good NP news lately

 

[baudib1]

I would shut him down for the year.

 

[TheKingPin]

That’s great news. I would think he could cleared for contact this week and be sent down. Again, I think it’s just a matter of “try something more and see if the migraines are ok”. Stepwise up to the point he is taking regular shifts again. Him at 4C is massive.

 

[VladDrag]

I would shut him down for the year.

Why?

 

[Striiker]

If he can play, he should play.

 

[Philly Fanatik]

If he can play, he should play.

Sure he should!

 

[Jtown]

if he is participating in practice that replicates actual game scenarios then he is most definitely cleared for contact. Thank god we traded Gudas.