Provorov

[Striiker]

Well Ghost is making $4.5m per season, which is obviously an insane deal for us.

It'd be amazing if Provorov got something similar.

 

[Rebels57]

Well Ghost is making $4.5m per season, which is obviously an insane deal for us.

It'd be amazing if Provorov got something similar.

6 × $5.5 if we want to keep the AAV down.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Just convince him cyborgs don't need money.

 

[Hiesenberg]

6 × $5.5 if we want to keep the AAV down.

If I was Provorov's agent, I wouldn't answer a phone call from Ron for 6 months, that offer is insulting.

 

[litflyersfan]

If I was Provorov's agent, I wouldn't answer a phone call from Ron for 6 months, that offer is insulting.

Why would that be insulting? That offer is falls inline with other young defensemen Provorov’s age and skill level (Jones, Ristolainen, Parayko). If anything I’d be pissed at Ron for not getting Provy locked up for 8 years instead of 6. Even if the AAV ends up higher with the additional 2 years it’s worth it to leverage Provy’s RFA years. Definitely hoping Ron doesn’t bridge Provy and gets a long-term deal done this offseason.

 

[Hiesenberg]

Why would that be insulting? That offer is falls inline with other young defensemen Provorov’s age and skill level (Jones, Ristolainen, Parayko). If anything I’d be pissed at Ron for not getting Provy locked up for 8 years instead of 6. Even if the AAV ends up higher with the additional 2 years it’s worth it to leverage Provy’s RFA years. Definitely hoping Ron doesn’t bridge Provy and gets a long-term deal done this offseason.

I put Provorov over all those guys, but that's me.

 

[Curufinwe]

If I was Provorov's agent, I wouldn't answer a phone call from Ron for 6 months, that offer is insulting.

It would also be a bad move for the Flyers to let him become a UFA at age 28.

 

[Hiesenberg]

It would also be a bad move for the Flyers to let him become a UFA at age 28.

Yea, now you might be talking 11MM a year to keep him around after that.

 

[Rebels57]

If I was Provorov's agent, I wouldn't answer a phone call from Ron for 6 months, that offer is insulting.

I think you jumped the gun with this comment..

Just look at the comparables for young 1D

Seth Jones - $5.4 million
Ekman-Larsson - $6.5 million
John Klingberg - $3.5 million (outlier)
Ramus Ristolainen - $5.4 million

Should Provy be making much more than Seth Jones? I don't think so. Somewhere inbetween Jones and Ekman-Larsson is probably appropriate.

 

[rework]

Yea, now you might be talking 11MM a year to keep him around after that.

On the other hand, assuming Hex is still GM, by then you'll have 20 former 1st round picks in the prospect pool fighting to take over his spot. So the Flyers could flip him at the deadline for a half-dozen more 1st round picks!
Salary cap issue fixed.

 

[Curufinwe]

Seth Jones is a good comparable, but Jones had played three seasons already when he signed with a career best of 31 points in 81 games, and his contract started in 16-17. Provorov's contract won't start until 19-20 when the cap will have increased significantly, and I believe he will have a 40 point season by then.

 

[Rebels57]

Seth Jones is a good comparable, but Jones had played three seasons already when he signed with a career best of 31 points in 81 games, and his contract started in 16-17. Provorov's contract won't start until 19-20 when the cap will have increased significantly, and I believe he will have a 40 point season by then.

If we go 8 years I would think $6.5 would be a great deal but I can see it going as high as $7.

If it's only 6 year then $5.5-6 seems fair.

Thoughts?

Either way the main boards thread on his contract will be terrible lol

 

[Curufinwe]

The cap hit will definitely go up if the term is 8 years rather than 6.

Seth Jones got 6 years, and is probably gonna break the bank as a 27 year old UFA in 2022.

 

[Magua]

I wonder which contract Ron is more worried about this summer: Provorov’s........or Manning’s.

 

[Rebels57]

I wonder which contract Ron is more worried about this summer: Provorov’s........or Manning’s.

I hate you.

 

[Magua]

I hate you.

Meltzer tweeted today he thinks Manning is probably re-signed. Just a heads up.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

Meltzer tweeted today he thinks Manning is probably re-signed. Just a heads up.

As much as I think there's a good chance Filppula is back too, Manning is the one I don't even really question unless something changes. The PEB to Flip's VdV if you will.

 

[Magua]

As much as I think there's a good chance Filppula is back too, Manning is the one I don't even really question unless something changes. The PEB to Flip's VdV if you will.

He also said he doesn’t think Flip returns. We shall see. We shall see. But I’m busy over here trying to figure out how any of Sanheim, Morin, or Myers, let alone multiple, enter the lineup full time next year or the year after.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

He also said he doesn’t think Flip returns. We shall see. We shall see. But I’m busy over here trying to figure out how any of Sanheim, Morin, or Myers, let alone multiple, enter the lineup full time next year or the year after.

Ron Schenns Radko.

 

[Tripod]

Hmmm...

Provy Ghost
Manning Gudas
Hagg AMac
Morin Sanheim

All we have to do is demote Sanheim, and the top 7 is complete.

 

[Rebels57]

Meltzer tweeted today he thinks Manning is probably re-signed. Just a heads up.

Fire everyone.

 

[Magua]

Ron Schenns Radko.

Seems prudent and likely. He’s really been bad this year!

Another Weal would just be icing on the cake.

 

[Magua]

Fire everyone.

I believe someone started a thread for that already......

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

Just hope they don’t get crazy with AAV. There are still comparables and his scoring is capped by the PP. We love him, they love him, but be fair.

I like the precedent of Ghost’s contract though!

Hampus Lindholm is my comp. Anaheim and Nashville sure know how to get a sweet deals for their d.

I think you jumped the gun with this comment..

Just look at the comparables for young 1D

Seth Jones - $5.4 million
Ekman-Larsson - $6.5 million
John Klingberg - $3.5 million (outlier)
Ramus Ristolainen - $5.4 million

Should Provy be making much more than Seth Jones? I don't think so. Somewhere inbetween Jones and Ekman-Larsson is probably appropriate.

You also left out generational force that is Slavin.

 

[Rebels57]

Hampus Lindholm is my comp. Anaheim and Nashville sure know how to get a sweet deals for their d.


You also left out generational force that is Slavin.

So relieved that the main boards unhealthy love affair with him has fizzled out lol