Provorov - what's wrong?

[Striiker]

Unfortunately for Provorov, that 17 goal season isn't the only thing that is getting looked at when judging his value.

 

[TheKingPin]

Unfortunately for Provorov, that 17 goal season isn't the only thing that is getting looked at when judging his value.

Yea no way. It’s obvious that’s going to be a career high more than likely.

 

[BernieParent]

I am a genius, so there.

Pest boast in the thread.

 

[TCTC]

Yea no way. It’s obvious that’s going to be a career high more than likely.

Tbf, 17 goals would be a career high for most defensemen. Doughty's career high is 16. Keith's is 14.

Like you said, 17 goals is very impressive for a defenseman.

 

[tucson83]

if provy is asking too much, trade him, you need to cap space to pay hart not unless you get rid of jake.

 

[dragonoffrost]

if provy is asking too much, trade him, you need to cap space to pay hart not unless you get rid of jake.

We will be under a new CBA when Hart is due his next deal. Provy's deal shouldn't be impacted by Hart's next deal.

 

[AdamParrot]

Give him 3x6 bridge deal.

Give TK 6x6, he is legit 1st liner already, he will be beast next season already, he will be 60+ pts player without a time on PP1. Trust me.

 

[Rebels57]

Give him 3x6 bridge deal.

Give TK 6x6, he is legit 1st liner already, he will be beast next season already, he will be 60+ pts player without a time on PP1. Trust me.

If Werenski got 3 X $5, I don't think they can justify giving Provy $1 million more per on the same term.

 

[briererocks]

Give him 3x6 bridge deal.

Give TK 6x6, he is legit 1st liner already, he will be beast next season already, he will be 60+ pts player without a time on PP1. Trust me.

Why? Werenski is generally regarded as the better player and Provorov had a bad year last year. He does not deserve more than 3x5.

 

[AdamParrot]

If Werenski got 3 X $5, I don't think they can justify giving Provy $1 million more per on the same term.

Point is that I would be OK with 6M per year for Provy.

I understand your point. But I think that Provy's agent decline 5M per year.

 

[AdamParrot]

Why? Werenski is generally regarded as the better player and Provorov had a bad year last year. He does not deserve more than 3x5.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EECNCR7XsAAYQGO?format=png&name=900x900

https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2019/09/10/5yUA.png

Yes, Provy had bad year. But Werenski played in much better team, so much better system. After their career Provy has better career.

 

[Rebels57]

Point is that I would be OK with 6M per year for Provy.

I understand your point. But I think that Provy's agent decline 5M per year.

I would not be okay with giving Provorov $1 million more than he is worth. The market is set.

If he wants $6 million, he needs to accept a longer term than 3 years.

 

[AdamParrot]

I would not be okay with giving Provorov $1 million more than he is worth. The market is set.

If he wants $6 million, he needs to accept a longer term than 3 years.

Our situation is good. We can to give him 6M. I just want him to have in training camp...

We have only 2-3 days only.

 

[Rebels57]

Our situation is good. We can to give him 6M. I just want him to have in training camp...

We have only 2-3 days only.

We have 5 key RFAs to sign over the next 2 summers (Patrick, Myers, Hart, Lindblom, Sanheim). Overpaying 1 now sets a bad precedent for the negotiations among those 5. I'd rather he hold out then get overpaid. He will buckle eventually and it will give Sanheim and Ghost more ice time and keep Provy fresh at the end of the season.

 

[AdamParrot]

We have 5 key RFAs to sign over the next 2 summers (Patrick, Myers, Hart, Lindblom, Sanheim). Overpaying 1 now sets a bad precedent for the negotiations among those 5. I'd rather he hold out then get overpaid. He will buckle eventually and it will give Sanheim and Ghost more ice time and keep Provy fresh at the end of the season.

It's good point, you are correct.

But still, I would be OK if Provy gets more money than Zach (about 0,5-1M).

We'll see. But I really want to see them both on training camp. And in Prague too! Konecny will be probably my favourite player when Giroux will retire probably...

 

[Rebels57]

Not sure if posted yet..

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Not sure if posted yet..

Awesome shit!

 

[Chinatown88]

So 8x8?

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

So 8x8?

His contract looks good... coming in 5 by 5... wait...

 

[dragonoffrost]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EECNCR7XsAAYQGO?format=png&name=900x900

https://ctrlv.cz/shots/2019/09/10/5yUA.png

Yes, Provy had bad year. But Werenski played in much better team, so much better system. After their career Provy has better career.

And Werenski had Jones as a partner...

 

[AdamParrot]

Fletcher will talk with Provy’s and TK’s agents today. He is hopeful deals will get done before camp opens Fri. #Flyers

CMOOOON BOYS!!!

 

[deadhead]

I think what's Provorov is saying between the lines is he feels he's a better player than Werenski, while he understands why he won't get paid more, he wasn't going to sign early and get paid less. So with Werenski signed, Provorov has an "anchor" for his negotiations, "what he got plus one dollar more"

 

[dragonoffrost]

I think what's Provorov is saying between the lines is he feels he's a better player than Werenski, while he understands why he won't get paid more, he wasn't going to sign early and get paid less. So with Werenski signed, Provorov has an "anchor" for his negotiations, "what he got plus one dollar more"

I always thought Werenski or McAvoy would end up setting the bar for the trio. Looks like Weresnki and his agent blinked.

 

[TheKingPin]

Tbf, 17 goals would be a career high for most defensemen. Doughty's career high is 16. Keith's is 14.

Like you said, 17 goals is very impressive for a defenseman.

It was sneaky too. I didn’t realize he was getting up there until some way into the season.

Interesting quote from his agent. Maybe he thought Provy was out to lunch too. Otherwise I’d expect something like “werenski is not Ivan Provorov” or something.

 

[CSKA1974]

Not sure if posted yet..

Serious ask- please educate me. Has Provy changed agents? I thought Mark Gandler was his agent.