Prospect Info: Prospect Discussion 2020-21

[FabricDetails]

General question I have about "pedigree" prospects. How much does having a relative with NHL experience move the needle for you personally?

For me it's almost like a step below in importance than, say, a player's height IF they're a skater. And even then, if a forward/defenseman is 6'3, that's nice and all, but like a lot of us I'm looking harder at their skating ability, hockey sense, hands, etc.

We've had some pedigree prospect cases flame out like Louis Marc-Aubry and Landon Ferraro. Can probably add Dominic Turgeon to that list too at this point even though he's had some health/injury problems. We've also seen some hits like Tyler Bertuzzi and Anthony Mantha. Also Albert Johansson is TBD.

Thoughts?

 

[Christien]

 

[simonedvinsson]

General question I have about "pedigree" prospects. How much does having a relative with NHL experience move the needle for you personally?

For me it's almost like a step below in importance than, say, a player's height IF they're a skater. And even then, if a forward/defenseman is 6'3, that's nice and all, but like a lot of us I'm looking harder at their skating ability, hockey sense, hands, etc.

We've had some pedigree prospect cases flame out like Louis Marc-Aubry and Landon Ferraro. Can probably add Dominic Turgeon to that list too at this point even though he's had some health/injury problems. We've also seen some hits like Tyler Bertuzzi and Anthony Mantha. Also Albert Johansson is TBD.

Thoughts?

it means almost nothing to me. by the time these kids are at this stage in their careers, what their parents accomplished means squat. a name can do more harm than good. maybe if you're trying to gauge how much growth is left in a boy's plates, looking at dad is helpful, but that's about it for me.

on that note, i really wouldn't be happy with picking up lapointe, draper, or tag bertuzzi in the upcoming draft.

 

[HisNoodliness]

it means almost nothing to me. by the time these kids are at this stage in their careers, what their parents accomplished means squat. a name can do more harm than good. maybe if you're trying to gauge how much growth is left in a boy's plates, looking at dad is helpful, but that's about it for me.

on that note, i really wouldn't be happy with picking up lapointe, draper, or tag bertuzzi in the upcoming draft.

I mean of course their parents actual accomplishments don't matter, but you develop your values largely from your parents. So often times NHL or other professional athletes impart that "go the extra mile" mentality on their kids. I'd say it should give you more confidence in a prospect's attitude. Once you've interviewed them, spoken to their coaches and all of that enough to have a good feel directly, it probably shouldn't matter at all anymore.

 

[Frk It]

Can't wait to see Mastrosimone and Phillips later this year... expecting big things.

 

[simonedvinsson]

I mean of course their parents actual accomplishments don't matter, but you develop your values largely from your parents. So often times NHL or other professional athletes impart that "go the extra mile" mentality on their kids. I'd say it should give you more confidence in a prospect's attitude. Once you've interviewed them, spoken to their coaches and all of that enough to have a good feel directly, it probably shouldn't matter at all anymore.

That's fair. To those of us who are fans and not scouts, it could be reassuring to recognize the family name, but like you said, once a team's scouts have interviewed a player, spoken to his coaches, and all of that, they'll get a pretty good handle on that stuff anyway.

 

[FabricDetails]

Can't wait to see Mastrosimone and Phillips later this year... expecting big things.

It's definitely exciting to have prospects playing at BU. Are they supposed to get Top 6 minutes or something? Maybe Power Play?

 

[Killerjas]

It's definitely exciting to have prospects playing at BU. Are they supposed to get Top 6 minutes or something? Maybe Power Play?

Mastrosimone played top 6 and Phillips was mostly a 3rd liner.

Harper most likely will go to the AHL, just like Zegras. Curry got signed to Grand Rapids, leaving 3 open spots available. Peterson and O'Brien are joining Boston so there will be some healthy competition. Wouldn't be surprised if Mastrosimone gets 1st line minutes and Phillips being a regular 2nd liner.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

It's definitely exciting to have prospects playing at BU. Are they supposed to get Top 6 minutes or something? Maybe Power Play?

I think Mastro will see a promotion to the first line in 2020-21. He was mostly playing on BU's 3rd line with Phillips, but when there was an injury he was promoted to the top line and produced really well with Zegras as his center. I'd expect his point totals to at least double.

Phillips also looked good in a 3rd line checking role. That kid has exceptional wheels and if he can refine some of the finer points of his game like faceoffs then he could become a Luke Glendening type grinder.

 

[Konnan511]

I think Mastro will see a promotion to the first line in 2020-21. He was mostly playing on BU's 3rd line with Phillips, but when there was an injury he was promoted to the top line and produced really well with Zegras as his center. I'd expect his point totals to at least double.

Phillips also looked good in a 3rd line checking role. That kid has exceptional wheels and if he can refine some of the finer points of his game like faceoffs then he could become a Luke Glendening type grinder.

Whoa whoa whoa kit-kat, double his points? So a PPG player his sophomore season without Zegras (most likely)?

 

[bedtime20]

This is just a simulation but, this is what Zadina could maybe do in his career.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

Whoa whoa whoa kit-kat, double his points? So a PPG player his sophomore season without Zegras (most likely)?

Very likely he hits 35-40 points his sophmore year. When Mastrosimone was given icetime he produced very well. Watching him play it's not out of the realm of possibility. With Curry moving to Grand Rapids that opens up the top RW spot. It's Mastrosimone's spot to lose.

 

[MBH]

I think Mastro will see a promotion to the first line in 2020-21. He was mostly playing on BU's 3rd line with Phillips, but when there was an injury he was promoted to the top line and produced really well with Zegras as his center. I'd expect his point totals to at least double.

Phillips also looked good in a 3rd line checking role. That kid has exceptional wheels and if he can refine some of the finer points of his game like faceoffs then he could become a Luke Glendening type grinder.

I can see Phillips in a Tyler Johnson kind of role.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I can see Phillips in a Tyler Johnson kind of role.

I wish. He's got amazing wheels and a motor that doesn't quit. I'm unsure of his offensive upside though. Maybe he could surprise some people and breakout offensively in his next 2 or 3 years at BU?

 

[GettingYourMoms]

This is just a simulation but, this is what Zadina could maybe do in his career.

He was on pace for 23 goals and 21 assists this season. I think he will not be anything less than 30 goal scorer in future.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

I wish. He's got amazing wheels and a motor that doesn't quit. I'm unsure of his offensive upside though. Maybe he could surprise some people and breakout offensively in his next 2 or 3 years at BU?

I have little doubt he will break out into a decent scorer at the NCAA level. I think his skill-set there is pretty good, will it build up enough for professional ranks scoring is my bigger question mark. I think he is in the right developmental path though, hopefully we are turning him pro after his junior season.

Mastro has a big year, we honestly might turn him pro. He should be on the WJC team if they play it this year and hopefully he takes a big step physically, but I think he is a guy that could make that huge jump forward. Even if not, these guys should be a couple of the best players in Hockey East their junior years given their talent level. Excited about both guys and happy they are at a program I trust to continue developing them.

I would love with them on the roster if we could get them as the fourth team in the GLI or put together some other tournament where BU comes in.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I have little doubt he will break out into a decent scorer at the NCAA level. I think his skill-set there is pretty good, will it build up enough for professional ranks scoring is my bigger question mark. I think he is in the right developmental path though, hopefully we are turning him pro after his junior season.

Mastro has a big year, we honestly might turn him pro. He should be on the WJC team if they play it this year and hopefully he takes a big step physically, but I think he is a guy that could make that huge jump forward. Even if not, these guys should be a couple of the best players in Hockey East their junior years given their talent level. Excited about both guys and happy they are at a program I trust to continue developing them.

I would love with them on the roster if we could get them as the fourth team in the GLI or put together some other tournament where BU comes in.

With the state of our team and because BU's program is very good at developing NHLers I'd like them to stay on the team till at least their junior years. That would give them ample opportunity to become team leaders. After that I'd expect 1-2 years in the AHL before coming up to the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong and they both turn pro after their sophmore seasons? Either way I think both of these guys have it in them to become good NHLers. Mastro looks like he could be a very good middle six 40ish point guy, and Phillips has the wheels and defensive smarts to be a good bottom 6 role player.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

With the state of our team and because BU's program is very good at developing NHLers I'd like them to stay on the team till at least their junior years. That would give them ample opportunity to become team leaders. After that I'd expect 1-2 years in the AHL before coming up to the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong and they both turn pro after their sophmore seasons? Either way I think both of these guys have it in them to become good NHLers. Mastro looks like he could be a very good middle six 40ish point guy, and Phillips has the wheels and defensive smarts to be a good bottom 6 role player.

I don't see Phillips coming out before his junior season, he also has a little more physical developing to do. Mastro has the ability to be a Hobey Baker type if things fall right, I mean if he is the best player in Hockey East next year I am turning him pro if I am the Wings. I think he is going to explode next year, every time I turned on a BU game, I kept saying and he is just a Freshman with a big grin on my face. I think we stole something in him, love that pick even more now than I did on draft night. He also plays big at the end of games and in big moments. I think that can be overrated, but I do prefer my team's prospects to do it. There is a swagger to Mastro.

 

[Vector Cereal]

I don't see Phillips coming out before his junior season, he also has a little more physical developing to do. Mastro has the ability to be a Hobey Baker type if things fall right, I mean if he is the best player in Hockey East next year I am turning him pro if I am the Wings. I think he is going to explode next year, every time I turned on a BU game, I kept saying and he is just a Freshman with a big grin on my face. I think we stole something in him, love that pick even more now than I did on draft night. He also plays big at the end of games and in big moments. I think that can be overrated, but I do prefer my team's prospects to do it. There is a swagger to Mastro.

At last summer's propsects camp/tournament I found Phillips to be the most exciting to watch besides Seider. He generated a lot of chances on plays I expected to die out.

 

[MBH]

At last summer's propsects camp/tournament I found Phillips to be the most exciting to watch besides Seider. He generated a lot of chances on plays I expected to die out.

He and Johansson were the best skaters.

 

[ChadS]

 

[lightthelamp13]

Albin Grewe selected by Saginaw in the 2nd round of CHL import draft.

Interesting.

 

[lilidk]

Albin Grewe selected by Saginaw in the 2nd round of CHL import draft.

Interesting.

Between SHL and CHL, stay home Albin

 

[lilidk]

He was great at prospect tournament. Is it the same injury Svechnikov had?

 

[lilidk]

Other then Seider, we don't have anybody in the system , hope we get 2 more after this draft