Prospect Info: Prospect and Marlies Thread: 2017 - 2018 (continued) Part II

[Prominence]

Who gets mvp if marlins win? Sparks or Johnson? Looking at previous ahl mvps, the playoff points for past winners is 1.0ppg.

 

[Boutette]

Who gets mvp if marlins win? Sparks or Johnson? Looking at previous ahl mvps, the playoff points for past winners is 1.0ppg.

I'd give it to Johnsson. When he rejoined the team it gained another gear. That's what an MVP does.

 

[Boutette]

You’re right. We could keep Marner or we could trade him for a massive haul that might (if we’re lucky) get us a guy as good as Marner!
‘Peter Griffin-Boat-Mystery Box’ level thinking right there

Its not about how good. Its about what the team needs. Hockey is a TEAM GAME. Its not enough to have a great player, as we see with, say Edmonton. If you want to have a winning franchise, you need a great TEAM.

 

[Duke16]

Thought he was going to BU

 

[Orfieus]

Can we say this Marlie team is a product of Dubas?

 

[LeafChief]

Thought he was going to BU

That is strange.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Thought he was going to BU

He was. Guess he thought Ohio State was a better option? He probably gets more playing time, but they are not as good of a team. At least he gets to play with Joshua next year.

 

[Liminality]

The more I read about this draft the more I'm drawn to the prospects later in the draft. Anyone else thinking that they trade down from 25 to get more picks?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

The more I read about this draft the more I'm drawn to the prospects later in the draft. Anyone else thinking that they trade down from 25 to get more picks?

That's what I have been thinking for months, unless someone really good dropped to them. But even then, Konecny dropped and they still moved down. They may use a good guy who drops but they do not like to bump up the price on the pick.

 

[MyBudJT]

The more I read about this draft the more I'm drawn to the prospects later in the draft. Anyone else thinking that they trade down from 25 to get more picks?

I suspect that if the right deal comes around, Dubas would deal #25. Dubas seems like a guy who will do anything that would better the team.

At 25 our pick is worth ~ "19"...

If Detroit were to come around, and say "We'll give you 33 + 36 for 25..."... You bet Dubas will pull the trigger!

That puts our value of "19" to about "24 or 25"

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I suspect that if the right deal comes around, Dubas would deal #25. Dubas seems like a guy who will do anything that would better the team.

At 25 our pick is worth ~ "19"...

If Detroit were to come around, and say "We'll give you 33 + 36 for 25..."... You bet Dubas will pull the trigger!

That puts our value of "19" to about "24 or 25"

We'd have to add 83 most likely, but even then that would still be a win. 20 or 21 to 24 or 25 is still a win.

 

[Liminality]

Couple of teams have lots of picks in the first 3 rounds.

Montreal 3, 35, 38, 56, 61, 66
Detroit 6,31, 33, 36, 67, 81, 84
NYI 11, 12, 41, 43, 72
NYR 9, 26, 28, 39, 48, 70, 88

Not sure the how the value would have to add up but there's a couple to look at.

 

[FreeBird]

pretty well it seems

That's a good thing.

 

[Rich247]

If bracco is the future of the Marlies why is he riding the bench when he could be getting experience he needs for next year. How can the fifth leading point getter on the team sit for so long. Know he is young but riding the bench doesn't help develop the kid. Perhaps he will get lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Comments

 

[Boutette]

If bracco is the future of the Marlies why is he riding the bench when he could be getting experience he needs for next year. How can the fifth leading point getter on the team sit for so long. Know he is young but riding the bench doesn't help develop the kid. Perhaps he will get lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Comments

Name the forwards on the team that he should be playing instead of. Its a combination of seniority and the fact that his closest competition, Moore and Timashov have played so well this playoffs. He'll get plenty of time next year and the year after.

 

[stickty111]

If bracco is the future of the Marlies why is he riding the bench when he could be getting experience he needs for next year. How can the fifth leading point getter on the team sit for so long. Know he is young but riding the bench doesn't help develop the kid. Perhaps he will get lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Comments

Here you come again with your Bracco bias. As the other poster said, who would he replace?

Johnsson - Aaltonen - Grundstrom
Timashov - Mueller - Smith
Engvall - Gauthier - Greening Marchment - Brooks - Moore

That is a full Marlies team, and he isnt good enough to be in the lineup.
So its not about getting lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Next season, he likely will have a bigger role, and you need to realize his development isnt being ruined. The other players are simply better then him right now.

 

[Fogelhund]

If bracco is the future of the Marlies why is he riding the bench when he could be getting experience he needs for next year. How can the fifth leading point getter on the team sit for so long. Know he is young but riding the bench doesn't help develop the kid. Perhaps he will get lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Comments

Because he hasn't earned it, by being better in both ends of the rink yet.

 

[BoredBrandonPridham]

If bracco is the future of the Marlies why is he riding the bench when he could be getting experience he needs for next year. How can the fifth leading point getter on the team sit for so long. Know he is young but riding the bench doesn't help develop the kid. Perhaps he will get lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Comments

It’s well known based on how Marchment was developed that Marlies put together training programs that can involve not playing games for large stretches. You can become successful spending time focusing on technical development and strength building.

 

[horner]

The more I read about this draft the more I'm drawn to the prospects later in the draft. Anyone else thinking that they trade down from 25 to get more picks?

I have been saying that for a while.
Being a London knights fan .
I have watched the growth of
Foudy
Regula
Moskal
There are other players out there
But these are the ones that have opened my eyes.

 

[4thline]

If bracco is the future of the Marlies why is he riding the bench when he could be getting experience he needs for next year. How can the fifth leading point getter on the team sit for so long. Know he is young but riding the bench doesn't help develop the kid. Perhaps he will get lucky and be traded to a team that can use him. Comments

Comment: You should have written down the password to your first account Grandpa Bracco.

 

[Walshy7]

Couple of teams have lots of picks in the first 3 rounds.

Montreal 3, 35, 38, 56, 61, 66
Detroit 6,31, 33, 36, 67, 81, 84
NYI 11, 12, 41, 43, 72
NYR 9, 26, 28, 39, 48, 70, 88

Not sure the how the value would have to add up but there's a couple to look at.

I don't think we would get 2 30's picks so really montreal is the only one we should trade with. 35 & 56 for 25. Id wont a very early 2nd rnd pick if we are trading back. Maybe NYR fall in love with 2 prospects at 25 & 26 and we can trade back to 28 and 48 if they are desperate enough, include our 3rd or a Nielsen type prospect if value isn't fair

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Have there been any updates on Borgman’s injury at all? Seems super worrisome since it kept him out for 2 months already.

My pick is Johnsson for MVP.

 

[PanniniClaus]

Dermott tonight?

 

[SprDaVE]

Dermott tonight?

Game time decision.

Have there been any updates on Borgman’s injury at all? Seems super worrisome since it kept him out for 2 months already.

My pick is Johnsson for MVP.

No updates. I'm not sure what's his injury but from memory, I believe it was lower body.

 

[Anthrax442]

Going to the game today. So stoked!