All factors considered, Hayes should draw at least what Muzzin did and less than ROR.
He can do it if he wants because the Price is right.At first I read it as Carey Price setting the price of Hayes
Hmm..wasn't the same said for Rick Nash last year? Thank you Boston for that trade.
That 9th floor roster player just put up 25 points in 39 games for Boston that season, then 16 points in 20 games for us....yes it he didn't work out in the long run but he was a very good player that season, probably better than Nash alone was. So no, the ask isnt "considerably" more than that.That trade was a late first, a b prospect, a 9th floor roster player and a cap dump. This ask is for considerably more than that.
That 9th floor roster player just put up 25 points in 39 games for Boston that season, yes it he didn't work out in the long run but he was a very good player that season, probably better than Nash alone was. So no, the ask isnt "considerably" more than that.
The only reason that trade looks bad for Boston is that Nash got injured. Otherwise it’s a win-win.Beleskey’s contract at the time wasn’t even bad though..it was less than 2 mil (which Boston retained I think 50% on) and his contract expires this year
And at the time of the trade Spooner was producing well and was near a PPG with us after the trade. Spooner was closer to a top 6er than waiver fodder last years TDL
Also Boston added Ryan Lindgren (decent prospect at the time) who has looked really solid in his 2 game stint in the NHL
Yep. Players have a certain value within the NHL community. Every GM has his own needs and his own resources. Not everyone needs Hayes. Not everyone can afford Hayes. But if a GM has the need for a canter like Hayes and the resources to pay the price, it’ll happen. Certainly there’s room for negotiation. But I’d say that if Hayes is traded, the return will be in the range mentioned at the top.Every year I'm absolutely dumbfounded by how few people around here understand how negotiations work.
Last year the Rangers asking price for Nash in early Feb was "a 1st, top prospect, and a lesser player or prospect or pick" according to Bobby Mac. This board lost their minds yet they got almost exactly that package. They just got a lower tier prospect and had to take a cap dump.
Set a price and negotiate from there. This isn't rocket science.
Prices go up when supply is weak, totally. But when there’s a lot of supply, I’d suggest that a lot trades just don’t happen. GMs don’t just dump good players because they’re not getting offered fair value. The trade just doesn’t happen. I know there are examples of players who went cheap. But I’d bet there are thousands of lowball offers that get rejected. We wouldn’t know.Lots of supply prices go down . If the supplies of available players are low prices will go up .
Prices go up when supply is weak, totally. But when there’s a lot of supply, I’d suggest that a lot trades just don’t happen. GMs don’t just dump good players because they’re not getting offered fair value. The trade just doesn’t happen. I know there are examples of players who went cheap. But I’d bet there are thousands of lowball offers that get rejected. We wouldn’t know.
I disagree on his speed. I think he's a big skater who looks slow... but isn't as slow as it appears because of his big stride... I also think he has the puck a lot, and when he has the puck, he likes to slow down the play and stickhandle/glide around the ice. But he does this quite well, so its not a bad thing. He is one of the better players to slow down the play so he can find the open lane/man.
Most Rangers fans would agree. I see a 1st + decent prospect coming back.Zero chance they get a first AND top prospect.
Hayes is young and should be a part of their rebuild, not sold off for picks or prospects that may or may not pan out. Unless a contender is willing to give up what is stated in the OP he's not going to get traded. Who would be stupid enough to do that? Edmonton? They're stupid. Beyond that I can't think of anybody.
Im sure this is barking up the wirng tree because Cheveldayoff is tighter than a gnats arse on a lemon wedge, but...
1)
Hayes for
1st, Lemieux, Appleton
2)
Hayes + 3rd
1st, Lemieux, Niku
3)
Hayes + 2nd + Wall/Huska/Gettinger/Meskanen
1st, Lemieux, Vasalainen
Im sure this is barking up the wrong tree because Cheveldayoff is tighter than a gnats arse on a lemon wedge, but...
1)
Hayes for
1st, Lemieux, Appleton
2)
Hayes + 3rd
1st, Lemieux, Niku
3)
Hayes + 2nd + Wall/Huska/Gettinger/Meskanen
1st, Lemieux, Vasalainen
It may sound like an overpayment but Hayes is worth it imo, any team that gets Hayes will end up happy with him