Man, you're taking this really personally. Okay I get, you love Pedro and would spend 80 million to get him back Barca. If that's the case, so be it, like I care. He's a pretty damn useless player considering the way you want him to be used. For example, anybody using him as an inside forward is asking for hurt on the scoreboard. I agree with everything else said though.
Nothing in what you quoted suggests I'm taking this personally. No, I don't "love" Pedro and I never have.
He's not remotely a useless player used that way. Again, you should watch him play some time.
Why do think labeling someone as a utility player is deemed as such a negative light? I said his best attributes are ones of that in a utility player and that is something needed on squads. However, Chelsea has a ****load of them and I would consider selling Pedro as he's useless comparing to Willian, who is a better option. As I said before, if Chelsea wants to sell others and keep Pedro, that would make him less useless since all the rest of the utility players would be gone creating a demand for him. It is simple economics here, Chelsea is suffering because they have too many Pedros' and not enough everything else. I haven't watched Barca in quite some time so I cannot comment on Alba, my apologies.
I never said labeling someone a utility players should be deemed as negative. I'm disputing your label of him being one when he isn't for the most part nor should he be.
Pedro is useless compared to Willian? OK.
Chelsea don't have too many Pedros. They need to revamp the side a bit, but they don't have too many Pedros. Players you're labeling as other Pedros, like Cesc, aren't other Pedros.
Again you're taking it too literal in a sense. I can bring up Sanchez because he's easily the superior player and AINEC. I don't know where the "fact of the matter" comes from. Barca is in the past, lets stop going back to history to talk about players here and now in the present.
The fact of the matter is from the fact of how they both played at Barça where Sanchez wasn't easily the superior player.
Unsustainable and this season is proving just that, he doesn't have the skills or consistency offencively to be relied on to carry the load as Ozil and Sanchez can do throughout decades. I agree, having Pedro isn't entirely bad in the line up, but considering we're talking about Pedro in Chelsea and not Pedro in Barca, your argument continues to be weak. Willian has been better throughout their careers in London and Chelsea just has too many of those players. Chelsea just got their ass kicked in the past two games scoring little to zero goals, Pedro isn't helping them which is why I said they need a top-tier LW/CM/CAM.
This season isn't even a comparison because once again he plays less. That being said it's not like Sanchez is lighting things up this season. Give Pedro Sanchez's minutes and it looks pretty clear he puts up about as many goals and assists this season. Also, Pedro's role isn't too carry the load. That said, as I pointed out, he put the numbers he did despite your characterization of him being a "scrub", "awful buy", "BxB player not possessing the skill needed", etc. As for Sanchez and Ozil, carrying the loads throughout decades? Where exactly have they carried Arsenal? Out of the CL?
My argument is backed up by facts. You've simply come up with labels that are completely wrong and you've also slated him at Barça as well. To say Willian has been better is highly debatable. I'd say at times he has been, but it's pretty even. Last season however, when Chelsea won the league and made it to the FA Cup Final, Pedro was better.
That last two matches Chelsea weren't playing with a true striker for one. Second, Willian also happened to playing against Watford. Laying Chelsea's problems at the feet of Pedro is as hilarious as it is stupid.
Again, you're taking this too literal, I only brought up Walcott to show you that "trophy winning goals" is pretty useless stat and doesn't justify how good or bad a player is.
It's not a useless stat if it's in a bigger match and a player delivers multiple times in their career.
Doesn't mean that Bayern wasn't one of the best teams that year. Great teams get upset all the time, your history against Drogba and Chelsea should ring a few bells.
Bayern are irrelevent and don't change the fact that United were also a good side that season. We were better, sure, but we were also better than Bayern.
OMG, dude seriously? I wasn't trying to "stupidly change the argument after every wrong post" as you put it. I was trying to understand how high you have him in your mind. I was trying openly understand
where you're coming from which is one trait you clearly don't have...
I am willing to try and understand where someone is coming from as much as anyone else. The problem is what you're posting is coming from presumably you're uniformed opinion and you keep posting nonsense that isn't even true.
1) Well, Chelsea has the funds to buy de Brune for instance (of course for obvious reasons that didn't happen). Sterling is better than Pedro and would be much needed at Chelsea now. Martial would have been better. Draxler would have been the same. Doug Costa would have been better. Son would have been better. Perisic would have been better (lesser amount as well). I would take Pedro over Depay, Gervinho, and Thauvin for sure. Today's version of Thauvin though? Definitely not.
Obvious reasons, yet you mentioned de Bruyne anway... Sterling? He cost well more than double what Pedro cost and until this season wasn't outperforming Pedro. That's not to mention how Sterling would have slotted into Chelsea last season. Martial would have better? Another player who cost more than double and who last season for example didn't outplay Pedro and who in his first season played a lot more minutes. Draxler? A player who cost more than 50% more than Pedro and who hasn't been as good since then. Costa again cost more, his since been loaned out and hasn't delivered more than Pedro. Son again cost more and hasn't really delivered much more if anything than Pedro. Perisic cost less, but he's not necessarily delivered much more either. So to sum it up, you're answer is players who weren't an option, players who cost a lot more, and players don't perform as well or only as well.
2) As I've mentioned, Willian for me is the better option. I think he fits that team better. I would sell Moses, Drinkwater, and Pedro, while keeping Willian and Fabregas as all of those "utility players". But if another Chelsea fan preferred Pedro and wanted to sell Willian I would have no problems with that either. Just get rid of all these same players if you guys want to improve.
Yet you keep saying they need to get rid of Pedro, he's a scrub, he was an awful buy, etc and yet now you're saying you wouldn't have a problem with them keeping him.
Of course the club wanted Pedro to stay, they have a different priority than the player has. They want their club as deep as possible, while Pedro wanted to play and saw the incoming transfers, especially as Turan as competition for minutes. Lets be honest with ourselves, Pedro would have not gotten many minutes if he decided to stay.
You have zero basis about Turan being considered competition. If you have something post it. Very clear that wasn't the case.
He would have had some minutes with Neymar getting injured, but yes his minutes would have been limited. So would Sanchez's.
I've already answered in the question you proposed to me that there are always better players available. Of course you need to pony up the cash to grab them, but it is something Chelsea absolutely possesses.
Yeah, and those aren't "dime-a-dozen" players. You can see my reply above for the rest of it.
You're right that Pedro can play multiple positions, makes sense why I've used the term utility player at least forty times. His main position is LW, no? Or you trying to disagree with facts?
No, his main position isn't LW. He does play there, but throughout his career he's played more on the right. Even this season Whoscored says his time between those two flanks has been evenly split. By all means cite a source to demonstrate your "facts" that he's exclusively a left-sided player.
Bad comparsion, Ozil is normally known for being a extremely one-footed player, while having his best strengths in the playmaking category. Because of how one-footed he and how good of a play maker he is, Pedro should have more goals than him in a regular basis. Ozil versus Isco is probably better argument.
It's a completely fair comparison because it's in response to you saying Pedro "lacks skill and creativity when it comes to scoring goals." And take goals out of it and look at assists. I would say assists are in part at least down to creativity. Ozil is an apt argument even though it doesn't suit you.
Of course your team would kick the crap of mine this season...your team is built to win titles for the next couple of years, especially when you were gifted Messi or Neymar (forgot which one). My team however a couple years down the road will be winning World Cups. In a sense I went down the "lose the battle, win the war" method. Something you and your Napoleonian squad doesn't understand. Hell yeah I got utility players, however my utility players kick Pedro's ass. Dahoud would run circles around Pedro and Bernardeschi is what Pedro is, just with skill.
My team would kick the crap out of your team for years and years. A couple of years down the road your team won't be winning World Cups (???). You lost both the battle and the war. You've got a lot of young players who still have a lot to prove and who quite frankly don't look at this stage as though they'll be much if at all better than my younger players. And like I said, my team fits much better together than yours does. Much better. LOL at the Pedro comments. So you can't compare Pedro and Ozil in a discussion about skill and creativity when it comes to scoring goals and yet you can compare Dahoud and Pedro?
Tide pod eating is just the misfit nature of my squad, as being young and rebellious, but having the talent to dominate. They know they're good and because of that I challenge them to become even better which again 99.9% of them are developing in a upward trajectory. If put my squad on the stock market, I
would have Elon Musk's networth.
Young and rebellious or just young and stupid? Also I already pointed out, nowhere 99.9% of them are developing in an upward trajectory.
Everything else is your opinion.
LOL. All you've done is spout your opinion which has been quite amusing.
