Premier League 2019-20 Part III

[Evilo]

There is more to winning games than just goals/assists, by that logic a defensively minded player could never win it. I don't think Henderson winning it is unreasonable, even with KdB's amazing year as well.

When you break an all time record, yes there's no argument to give it to a CM like Henderson. NONE.

 

[Evilo]

I mean, Mane has been there best player for most of the season.

But.. it's whatever. It's a nonsense award.

Mane winning it would be much less of a scandalous decision, but it should be KDB regardless.

 

[koyvoo]

Wrong thread

 

[Savant]

When you break an all time record, yes there's no argument to give it to a CM like Henderson. NONE.

The argument is Kante.

No one is saying KDB doesn’t deserve it though.

 

[Cassano]

Kante was clearly the best player on the top team, when #2 was also on the same team though. It is in no way comparable. And Hendo's season doesn't touch's Kante's.

 

[Evilo]

But who broke a record during Kante's MVP season?
And Kante's context was immensly different.

 

[Blender]

When you break an all time record, yes there's no argument to give it to a CM like Henderson. NONE.

Do you think it's possible to break a record and still not be the best overall player? I certainly think that could be the case. I'm not sure Henderson had that good of a season, but he did have a good one. For example, if 16-17 Kante had played like that this year, he would deserve the award over KdB in my opinion.

 

[Evilo]

Nah I don't think you can beat the G or A record and not be the best player. Those are records nearly impossible to reach. Long time records too.

 

[Blender]

Nah I don't think you can beat the G or A record and not be the best player. Those are records nearly impossible to reach. Long time records too.

Goals maybe, but here's where we disagree. Salah for the record won player of the year in 17-18 when he broke the goals record in a 38 game season.

 

[YNWA14]

There is more to winning games than just goals/assists, by that logic a defensively minded player could never win it. I don't think Henderson winning it is unreasonable, even with KdB's amazing year as well.

Yeah I agree. I think KdB is deserving as well but Henderson deserves his recognition.

 

[Savant]

Speaking of assists. Alisson Becker has as many as Raheem Sterling this season. Fun fact.

 

[Evilo]

Goals maybe, but here's where we disagree. Salah for the record won player of the year in 17-18 when he broke the goals record in a 38 game season.

And you don't think he deserved it?

 

[Blender]

And you don't think he deserved it?

Who? Salah? Yes he deserved it in 17-18. I haven't watched every Liverpool and every Manchester City game this year, so I wouldn't pretend to know for sure that Henderson was a bad choice this year. KdB is who he is, he's probably the best player in the league overall.

 

[Live in the Now]

Henderson shouldn't win, but he was definitely one of our best players this season.

 

[Blender]

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

What the f*** hahahaha Nevin is supposed to be one of ours

 

[Prntscrn]

It has been amazing to hear Henderson's leadership with empty arenas though. Doing the managers work out on the pitch. But I agree with most in here, if it weren't for Liverpool's first league title in 30 years it probably would have been KdB

 

[East Coast Bias]

this pretty much squares with what everyone here thought

everyone had Liverpool and City top 2. But mostly everyone had Spurs and Arsenal 3/4.

no one had United top 4. @Wee Baby Seamus only one I saw who even nailed 3 of top 4

everyone thought Sheffield was getting relegated. Everyone expected much better from West Ham.

@S E P H picked Watford 6th



Premier League 2019-20

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

I'll note that I also had Sheffield outside the drop (albeit in 17th), and was also confident about Leicester being "best of the rest" - I just thought that meant 7th and not 5th.

 

[S E P H]

@S E P H picked Watford 6th

That was actually wrong by me, I meant to say Wolves instead of Watford in that post.

 

[les Habs]

Fun stuff reading challenges to the notion that De Bruyne should have won it.

Speaking of assists. Alisson Becker has as many as Raheem Sterling this season. Fun fact.

 

[jetsforever]

Glad to see the old timers Villa survive and United finish #3.
Also KDB should definitely win IMO.

 

[Evilo]

For the non french readers it says how the United board didn't want to move for Bruno because of that stat line.
OGS went to see a game and it all changed because he put context on that stat.
And he agreed to the transfer, turning around United's season.

 

[PeteWorrell]

That stat is indeed misleading as pretty much all his passes are forward ones trying to create offence so of course the % of success is lower. Someone with over 90% but only does backwards and sideways passes is not really the type of player United needed.

 

[Evilo]

Yes, it is. (misleading)