Premier League 2019-20 part II

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East Coast Bias

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Selfishly, I would absolutely love to see the proposal I saw floating around where all teams camp out in the Midlands, World Cup style and play games behind closed doors to finish the season. The distraction from life is desperately needed, and I would gamble on every damn game for the hell of it.

But in reality, we're not close to that yet. That kind of proposals is realistically going to steer medical (including testing) and law enforcement resources, that are already stretched thin, away from the people that need it most.
 

PanniniClaus

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Using celebrities to send the message only works if they actually adhere to the message. Grealish and Walker should be fined a very large amount of money and that money used to help some people in need at this time. Truly pitiful behavior from this entitled pair of idiots.
 

spintheblackcircle

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How about a salary cap? :)

Revealed and explained: the 'terrible' state of Premier...

“As of last June, the clubs owed £1.6 billion in installments and had £700 million coming in. Some of this money is circulating within the division and some will be flowing downwards to the EFL, but there is a £900 million deficit. The concern is that financial problems in one league could spread throughout the industry just like the pandemic.”
 

Stray Wasp

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I think running your business properly is better. We are not socialists like the Americans.

It's been said for years that a club at any level shouldn't spend more than 60% of its turnover if it wishes to maintain its financial health.

So many EPL clubs have ignored this orthodoxy, and in the Championship it is ignored almost as a matter of course. Manifestly, clubs couldn't have predicted a pandemic, but they've given themselves precious little leeway to deal with an unforeseen development of any kind.

Mind, a lot of our business people are semi-socialists - they believe passionately that the government should wherever possible pay for their outgoings and unsustainable debts. It's in the protection of their income where the rabid capitalism kicks in.
 
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YEM

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Mind, a lot of our business people are semi-socialists - they believe passionately that the government should wherever possible pay for their outgoings and unsustainable debts. It's in the protection of their income where the rabid capitalism kicks in.
yes
"privatize the profits, socialize the losses"
 

JeffreyLFC

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If you have sometime I would highly suggest any football fan to watch the documentary on Sadio Mane.

The name of the documentary: Made in Senegal

Very touching and you can feel the immense pressure on the players when they play for their national team. It is incredible how many potential superstar football players are unable to play in proper conditions and are never discovered and developed properly.

And that goal from Algeria.. wtf was the goaltender doing there? It is the biggest game of his life and he just does not move for like 4 secs to see the ball go over him. I get it there is a slight possibly he cannot reach it on time but for f*** sake try something.
 

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Seems kind of petty and dickish in that context tbh.

They know it hurts, but so does this ;) The difference is it wouldn't have been a thing to us if Milan went on to win it
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YNWA14

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I mean it doesn’t really hurt given where Liverpool are and where Chelsea are. It was a chain started by Burnley and Chelsea‘s Twitter just kind of ruined it to be petty. The Salah goal was much better anyway though Hendo scored a beauty against Chelsea too that could have been a nice one.
 

Havre

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It's been said for years that a club at any level shouldn't spend more than 60% of its turnover if it wishes to maintain its financial health.

So many EPL clubs have ignored this orthodoxy, and in the Championship it is ignored almost as a matter of course. Manifestly, clubs couldn't have predicted a pandemic, but they've given themselves precious little leeway to deal with an unforeseen development of any kind.

Mind, a lot of our business people are semi-socialists - they believe passionately that the government should wherever possible pay for their outgoings and unsustainable debts. It's in the protection of their income where the rabid capitalism kicks in.

Exactly.

I deal with "predictions" professionally and it is always funny to me discussing with CFOs about some agency or whatever that is forecasting some future development. Even when I show them how wrong these forecasts have been historically they will come back 3 months later to ask for a plan based on the same forecasts. It really is communist mid level manager 101. Cover your a¤¤ with some external source and when the s¤¤¤ hits the fan you can refer back to something else.

Simplified the world can go three ways, up - the same - down. So every football club should evaluate what happens in all those scenarios. It could be a pandemic, a war, or whatever so-called unknown known. Knowing what exactly causes a downturn is not really that important, but that is where the focus is, knowing how robust you are when it happens however is extremely important - that often becomes just something "abstract".

And what do you do if you run a football club? I don't know how many times I have heard the phrase "Levy isn't investing enough". So unless you are living hand to mouth you are somehow not "ambitious" or something equally silly. Having reserves as a football club is almost considered a sin (and that I believe is universal and not specific for Spurs).

I wish I was a communist mid level manager in charge of European football. I would have forced every owner, director etc. at football clubs to read Nassim Taleb. Black swans happen so make sure to make yourself anti-fragile. And not a single football club would have been rescued. If you go bankrupt you are bankrupt.
 

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It's quite surprising that even though these big soccer-teams are giants they seem to have feet of clay. A short pause in activity sends them on the brink.

Unfortunately they are institutions and therefore too big to fail and fall down. Or can you imagine some Real Madrid or Manchester United actually going bust?
 
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