Predict the top 10!

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clay

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1) Ovechkin
2) Crosby
3) Malkin
4) Phaneuf
5) Lundqvist
6) Lehtonen
7) Johnson
8) Vanek
9) Suter
10) Carter
 

Jurgy25

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1. Ovechkin
2. Crosby
3. Phaneuf
4. Lundqvist
5. Malkin
6. Lehtonen
7. Carter
8. Vanek
9. Johnson
10. Suter

Not much difference from above just moves phaneuf and johnson 1 spot higher
 

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1. Ovechkin (neck and neck with Sid, AO is winning round 1)
2. Crosby (see above)
3. Phaneuf (amazing so far)
4. Malkin (excelling in the RSL; the question is "when," not "if")
5. Lehtonen (injuries hurt, but he hasn't lost top G billing)
6. Lundqvist (he's had his boosters, sure, but NYR are in 1st place)
7. Carter (so he's not a 1st liner yet ... disappointment? No)
8. Vanek (it's tough not putting him ahead of Carter ...)
9. Suter (development curve has done nothing to merit demotion)
10. Johnson (excelling in college not enough to beat out Suter)

... and I think someone else already pointed this out ... but am I right in thinking that the vast majority of the top 25 is going to "graduate" from "prospect" status just a couple weeks after the NHL resumes this season? Sorry, tangent ...
 
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1) Ovechkin
2) Malkin
3) Crosby
4) Lundqvist
5) Phaneuf
6) Lehtonen
7) Vanek
8) Johnson
9) Carter
10) Suter
 

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1) Ovechkin
2) Crosby
3) Malkin
4) Lundqvist
5) Phaneuf
6) Lehtonen
7) Johnson
8) Vanek
9) Suter
10) Carter
 

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I'd be surprised if Ovechkin is #1. Even though he probably deserves to be, let's be real, it's HF, Crosby is who has made this site successful for the past 4 years. He's the HF golden boy.

Edit: For the record, I hope I am wrong.
 

ryz

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1) Crosby
2) Ovechkin
3) Phaneuf
4) Malkin
5) Lundqvist
6) Lehtonen
7) Carter
8) Vanek
9) Suter
10) Johnson

Ovechkin won't pass Sid at #1. They are pretty much dead even and Sid is almost 2 full years younger. Is Lundqvist even considered a prospect? The guy is 4-6 years older than most of the other guys on the list.
 

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Top 10

1) Crosby
2) Ovechkin
3) Malkin
4) Phaneuf
5) Lehtonen
6) Lundqvist
7) Carter
8) Suter
9) Vanek
10) Johnson

Crosby or Ovechkin, at 2 years younger, I think you would have to go with Crosby.

It was tough picking Lehtonen over Lundqvist based on this year, but if you take the previous 3 years into consideration and factor in that Lehtonen has not been healthy this year, I think you would want Lehtonen over Lundqvist.

7-10 could pretty much go in any order.
 

xander

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ryz said:
1) Crosby
2) Ovechkin
3) Phaneuf
4) Malkin
5) Lundqvist
6) Lehtonen
7) Carter
8) Vanek
9) Suter
10) Johnson

Ovechkin won't pass Sid at #1. They are pretty much dead even and Sid is almost 2 full years younger. Is Lundqvist even considered a prospect? The guy is 4-6 years older than most of the other guys on the list.

he's 23.
 

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ryz said:
Ovechkin won't pass Sid at #1. They are pretty much dead even and Sid is almost 2 full years younger. Is Lundqvist even considered a prospect? The guy is 4-6 years older than most of the other guys on the list.
You could say the same about Steen and Richards, and Steen got the nod, despite being the older one. I'm not saying I know who will get the #1 slot, but age doesn't seem to be that big of a factor in these.
 

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ryz said:
Is Lundqvist even considered a prospect? The guy is 4-6 years older than most of the other guys on the list.
Yea.. because he is one WHOLE YEAR older than Lehtonen... but i forgot.. Kari was a regular in SM-liiga as a 17-year old.. so he still counts more as a prospect.
 

ryz

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An Ape called Yoko said:
Yea.. because he is one WHOLE YEAR older than Lehtonen... but i forgot.. Kari was a regular in SM-liiga as a 17-year old.. so he still counts more as a prospect.
So there's 1 other older guy. How can you compare him to 18-21 yr old Crosby, Ovechkin, Phaneuf and Malkin?
 

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ryz said:
So there's 1 other older guy. How can you compare him to 18-21 yr old Crosby, Ovechkin, Phaneuf and Malkin?


Um, have you looked at the other 40 players on the list? There are plenty of players over 21 on it and a few older then Lundqvist.
 

X-SHARKIE

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Who cares, this list is ugly! It reaks of bias... the criteria of being a prospect IMO is way off... Weber all the way down at 50 while Coburn is on the top 25? If you watched these two play vs. each all year ( I have both in Milwaukee and Chicago) you will see Weber is furthur now and has more upside...and I love Coburn..nothing against him.

It rips on Michalek for only having 23 points yet it says Parise is a super star despite having less points.... If you're only going to base a ranking on draft quotes and stats without looking at the player, at least do it with some consistancy.

Why is Seabrook so low?

Semin at 13th? Wha? Why is Suter so high? I'm just confused..... I'm convinced half of the list makers only watched 25% of the players and just used a dart board to rank the rest of them..

THN did a much better job despite being quite comical at times.. :confused:
 

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An Ape called Yoko said:
Yea.. because he is one WHOLE YEAR older than Lehtonen... but i forgot.. Kari was a regular in SM-liiga as a 17-year old.. so he still counts more as a prospect.

1year8months :p:
 

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1A- Sidney The Kid Crosby
1B- Alexander Ovechking
2- Evgeni Malkin
3- Dion Phaneuf
4- Kari Lehtonen
5- Henrik Lundqvist
6- Thomas Vanek
7- Jack Johnson
8- Jeff Carter
9- Ryan Suter
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ryz said:
He's turning 24 within a few weeks. I find it difficult to rate him alongside 18-21 yr olds at that age.

Look at the list, they're are plenty of players that are around the same age as Henrik. It's all a result of the lockout year, as many of the older guys would have been playing in the NHL last year and wouldn't have qualified for this year's list. I wouldn't worry about it that much, the list's average age will drop signifigantly in the fall when upwards of 20 guys graduate.

Personally, if i was doing my own list I would not include Henrik on it, just beacause I no longer have any serious doubts about his ability to perform on the NHL level. At this point I view him as an NHL regular, rather than a prospect. However, the arguments over this list get heated enough without including a discussion of who should be considered a prospect. For a project of this size you have to have a set numerical definition of who qualifies and who doesn't, otherwise it would just get too complicated. Presently Lundqvist qualifies, thus he must be on the list.
 
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