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Riku Hahl has one too.miss hockey said:Am I the only one who remembers that Koivu has a World Cup silver medal around his neck?
Riku Hahl has one too.miss hockey said:Am I the only one who remembers that Koivu has a World Cup silver medal around his neck?
Vanek will most likely fall to 24th or so because HF has a vendetta against Buffalo prospects.
I never liked him, and now that he is on the crappiest team on earth, I hate him more. A statue has better hands than him, his hands are made from layers of cement. He is also a pretty small guy, smaller than some of the top flight small defensive players, like John Madden. He is often compared to Jere Lehtinen, but he doesn't have any scoring potential, and isn't nearly as good defensively. My (Probably biased) opinion, is that he'll be a 4th line winger, not Top 50 Prospect worthy at all.Kvashinator12 said:how bout Petteri Nokelainen
That didn't sound biased at all [/sarcasm]Broadway Crosby said:I never liked him, and now that he is on the crappiest team on earth, I hate him more. A statue has better hands than him, his hands are made from layers of cement. He is also a pretty small guy, bad for a guy who is called a defensive player. He is compared to Jere Lehtinen, but he doesn't have any scoring potential, and isn't nearly as good defensively. My (Probably biased) opinion, is that he'll be a 4th line winger.
Well, what is your opinion on him?19bruins19 said:That didn't sound biased at all [/sarcasm]
rivercanyon said:If Henrik Lundqvist isn´t on the top 50 list, this list might be the biggest joke in history of hockey. Its all about hype with you people...
Kvashinator12 said:how bout Petteri Nokelainen
I haven't seen much video of him, but Nokelainen seems to be a solid and clever player. I doubt he will have big trouble making it to the NHL, but I also expect he'll be a checking-line specialist. Nokelainen and Korpikoski would both be ranked behind Tukonen based on the rules of this list (Tukonen > Nokelainen ? Korpikoski).Kvashinator12 said:how bout Petteri Nokelainen
Kryoptix said:It's hard to judge ....
Kostitsyn is a clear Boom or Bust prospect ...
probably one of the highest potential but also one of the worse downside ...
radulov is still IMO 3 years away from the NHL unless he develops faster than I thought ..
Perezhogin(who I like a lot) is IMO NHL ready ... if he's not in the top 25 it will be because of his Swinging stick incident ....
I left some other prospect like Kesler,Woywitka,Montoya,Leclaire,Ouellet,Bryzaglov .. who all deserves to be in the top 50 IMO ..
so it's hard to judge ... I think that commitee selected the players with the biggest chance to have a impact in the NHL ...
if it's the case i wont be surprised to see Kostitsyn left out... anyway ..
we'll see when the list will be release !
Maybe it's my homerism speaking, but I think that Korpikoski is better than Nokelainen. Korpikoski is bigger, stronger, and a bit faster. He has tremendous hockey sense, has great hands, and, even though his stats don't show, his finishing skills are pretty good. He loves to hit, and is one of the most competitive hockey players I have ever seen, which leads to an outstanding work ethic. He is also a great leader, and is a catalyst to a team. He will be a Saku Koivu or Daniel Alfredsson type player.007 said:Nokelainen and Korpikoski would both be ranked behind Tukonen based on the rules of this list (Tukonen > Nokelainen ? Korpikoski).
Unless Koivu makes the top 25 (unlikely), then the Finns will only have Kari Lehtonen in the top half . At least he should be in the top 2 .
Personally, I like Korpikoski better, too, but it is easier to say that after he made TPS' first team this year, which has affirmed some of the promise from last season.Broadway Crosby said:Maybe it's my homerism speaking, but I think that Korpikoski is better than Nokelainen. Korpikoski is bigger, stronger, and a bit faster. He has tremendous hockey sense, has great hands, and, even though his stats don't show, his finishing skills are pretty good. He loves to hit, and is one of the most competitive hockey players I have ever seen, which leads to an outstanding work ethic. He is also a great leader, and is a catalyst to a team. He will be a Saku Koivu or Daniel Alfredsson type player.
:lolBroadway Crosby said:Maybe it's my homerism speaking, but I think that Korpikoski is better than Nokelainen. Korpikoski is bigger, stronger, and a bit faster. He has tremendous hockey sense, has great hands, and, even though his stats don't show, his finishing skills are pretty good. He loves to hit, and is one of the most competitive hockey players I have ever seen, which leads to an outstanding work ethic. He is also a great leader, and is a catalyst to a team. He will be a Saku Koivu or Daniel Alfredsson type player.
Broadway Crosby said:Maybe it's my homerism speaking, but I think that Korpikoski is better than Nokelainen. Korpikoski is bigger, stronger, and a bit faster. He has tremendous hockey sense, has great hands, and, even though his stats don't show, his finishing skills are pretty good. He loves to hit, and is one of the most competitive hockey players I have ever seen, which leads to an outstanding work ethic. He is also a great leader, and is a catalyst to a team. He will be a Saku Koivu or Daniel Alfredsson type player.
Kvashinator12 said:Nokelainen has outshined both of them at the U20 tournament, except the one good game Tukonen had, who i would have preferred anyway. Koivu or Alfredsson? Are you serious? Just a quick question how many times have you seen Korpiksoski play?
NYRangers said:I'd hope he outshines him. Isn't Korpikoski hurt?
It was easy for Nokelainen to outshine Korpikoski at the recent tournament: Lauri wasn't there, he's out with a knee injury. In fact, I would not be surprised that that line had a relatively poor tournament largely because of the lack of Korpikoski and his in-your-face, forchecking style. By all accounts, Korpikoski, Nokelainen, and Tukonen compliment each other very well.Kvashinator12 said:Nokelainen has outshined both of them at the U20 tournament, except the one good game Tukonen had, who i would have preferred anyway. Koivu or Alfredsson? Are you serious? Just a quick question how many times have you seen Korpiksoski play?
Broadway Crosby said:Maybe it's my homerism speaking, but I think that Korpikoski is better than Nokelainen. Korpikoski is bigger, stronger, and a bit faster. He has tremendous hockey sense, has great hands, and, even though his stats don't show, his finishing skills are pretty good. He loves to hit, and is one of the most competitive hockey players I have ever seen, which leads to an outstanding work ethic. He is also a great leader, and is a catalyst to a team. He will be a Saku Koivu or Daniel Alfredsson type player.
I went out on a huge limb with him not being on the list, Stuart just doesn't seem to have the same upside as most the guys on that list. And if Grebeshkov and Whitney are that far down the list, I can't see Stuart being 20 or 30 spots ahead of them.19bruins19 said:Mark Stuart? He just doesn't go from 15th to OFF THE LIST.
Broadway Crosby said:Maybe it's my homerism speaking, but I think that Korpikoski is better than Nokelainen. Korpikoski is bigger, stronger, and a bit faster. He has tremendous hockey sense, has great hands, and, even though his stats don't show, his finishing skills are pretty good. He loves to hit, and is one of the most competitive hockey players I have ever seen, which leads to an outstanding work ethic. He is also a great leader, and is a catalyst to a team. He will be a Saku Koivu or Daniel Alfredsson type player.
If he is on the list though, are you going to throw a fit once again about HF being biased and such?Leafaholix said:I went out on a huge limb with him not being on the list, Stuart just doesn't seem to have the same upside as most the guys on that list. And if Grebeshkov and Whitney are that far down the list, I can't see Stuart being 20 or 30 spots ahead of them.
Future
Mark Stuart is going to be a top four NHL defenseman, the only question is what kind will he be. If his offensive game isn’t very strong a frequent comparison is that he will be a Mike Rathje like player. However, some feel his upside is as high as to become a Scott Stevens-like player. Stuart will spend 2004-05 as a junior at Colorado College.
As I said, he's not on the list. Not because he doesn't deserve to be in the top 50, but because of the way they are ranking defensemen. If Grebeshkov can fall from 16 to 44 or whatever, it makes sense that Mark Stuart is left off.19bruins19 said:If he is on the list though, are you going to throw a fit once again about HF being biased and such?
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect.php?pid=3558
He won't be as good offensively as Whitney and Grebeshkov, but will be better defensively and will have more leadership. Stuart has the making of being a future captain.
Of course, why should I post this considering you mainly don't care about HF's analysis of talent.
NYRangers said:He'd be lucky to crack the top 85, honestly.