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We all watch Slava to know how much he brings to the table. Yes he makes the occasional mistake, but shift to shift he is a great physical defender (he takes the body SO well) and he is just offensively gifted. I see BIG potential for Voinov in the future, but as of right now he is already an incredibly effective defenseman.
 

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The Blues have Pietrangelo, we have Doughty. They have Shattenkirk, we have Voynov. Bouwmeester? Martinez (hopefully Muzzin eventually). I woulda said Mitchell but we all know how lousy that situation is.....
 

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As you mentioned, Slava's physical game is what has really impressed me. I was surprised to see him actually line Blues players up along the boards with solid hip checks and strong cutoffs before they could get in deep or past him.

I hope the Kings lock him up to a nice long-term deal and keep him and Doughty constant as two of the top three defenseman on the squad. It's a valuable commodity to have offensively skilled defensemen who not only skate well but play solid positional defense with some physical play to go along with it.

I also love the fact that both came out of the 2008 draft. The selection of Voynov in the 2nd round more than makes up for the mistake of taking Teubert with the 12th pick.
 

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The Blues have Pietrangelo, we have Doughty. They have Shattenkirk, we have Voynov. Bouwmeester? Martinez (hopefully Muzzin eventually)....

I'd say Forbort would be the Kings' version of Bouwmeester. Big guy, not necessarily known for their physical game or offensive prowess, but solid skater who can be trusted with big minutes and can play in many situations.
 

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Doughty and Voynov. Both incredible homegrown defensemen. Seriously, that is fantastic drafting.

And the KHL best stay away. Or else...
 

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Why do we need to match St. Louis' defensemen? Doughty and Voynov > Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk. Mitchell > Bouwmeester. Our last four guys >> than their last four guys. Our 8, 9 and 10 >>> than theirs too. There's no comparison.

Our problem is injuries and our fourth line <<< than theirs this year.
 

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Why do we need to match St. Louis' defensemen? Doughty and Voynov > Pietrangelo and Shattenkirk. Mitchell > Bouwmeester. Our last four guys >> than their last four guys. Our 8, 9 and 10 >>> than theirs too. There's no comparison.

Our problem is injuries and our fourth line <<< than theirs this year.

I matched them for the **** of it, didn't realize one could get so touchy about the subject. And no way Mitchell > Bouwmeester considering Mitchell's career is likely over. A healthy Mitchell, then yes he's better. And honestly Doughty and Pietrangelo are on par with one another....
 

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Doughty and Voynov. Both incredible homegrown defensemen. Seriously, that is fantastic drafting.

And the KHL best stay away. Or else...

We may have lucked out with Voynov in the draft... I know DL wanted Viktor Tikhonov and then PHX traded up to grab him. We got "stuck" with Voynov who is amazing!
 

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I matched them for the **** of it, didn't realize one could get so touchy about the subject. And no way Mitchell > Bouwmeester considering Mitchell's career is likely over. A healthy Mitchell, then yes he's better. And honestly Doughty and Pietrangelo are on par with one another....

The only person being "touchy" is you. You realize this is a forum and if you say something I disagree with, I can put in my two cents too??

And you notice, I didn't compare Pie to DD. I compared the two guys to the two guys. Our two together are better than their two.
 

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Slava means glory in slovene.. prolly smth similar in russian. Yes yes i know.. very important information that is :P
 

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The only person being "touchy" is you. You realize this is a forum and if you say something I disagree with, I can put in my two cents too??

And you notice, I didn't compare Pie to DD. I compared the two guys to the two guys. Our two together are better than their two.

:facepalm: And nothing to even say about Mitchell because you know its true. I can do the grouping game too:

Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Shattenkirk > Doughty, Voynov, Martinez
 

123slam

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:facepalm: And nothing to even say about Mitchell because you know its true. I can do the grouping game too:

Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Shattenkirk > Doughty, Voynov, Martinez

If Martinez of last year + playoffs is the real deal, which I believe it is, then that equation is false.
 

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:facepalm: And nothing to even say about Mitchell because you know its true. I can do the grouping game too:

Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Shattenkirk > Doughty, Voynov, Martinez

Eh.

Doughty = Pietrangelo

Voynov > Shattenkirk

Bouwmeester > Martinez

Flip a coin.
 

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:facepalm: And nothing to even say about Mitchell because you know its true. I can do the grouping game too:

Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Shattenkirk > Doughty, Voynov, Martinez

Nah.

Bouwmeester is grossly overrated.

Doughty and Voynov, in time, will be the best D pairing in the NHL.
 

Omni Owl

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Eh.

Doughty = Pietrangelo

Voynov > Shattenkirk

Bouwmeester > Martinez

Flip a coin.

Pretty much this.


Nah.

Bouwmeester is grossly overrated.

Doughty and Voynov, in time, will be the best D pairing in the NHL.

Not overrated anymore. Most people consider him pretty average now, but he's still slightly better than Martinez. That will (hopefully) change over time. This isn't 2009 anymore where everyone expects Bouw to have his break out season any time soon....
 
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Pretty much this.

Not overrated anymore. Most people consider him pretty average now, but he's still slightly better than Martinez. That will (hopefully) change over time. This isn't 2009 anymore where everyone expects Bouw to have his break out season any time soon....

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