Power play concerns!?!?

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  1. babcockscowl

    babcockscowl Registered User

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    does anyone have concerns on whether or not The Wings can be effective on the Power play, in the last two seasons have been lackluster at best!
     
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    Granted pre-season is a bad indicator but the eye test, our 1st line PP looked pretty solid. The 2nd line might have some issues but I don't think that either unit is going to "struggle".

    They should be in the top half of the NHL overall and in my opinion top 5 if Kindl progresses and Alfie has as large an impact as expected.
     
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    The 1st unit should be fine. The 2nd unit could be good if Tatar and Nyquist were involved. 2nd unit will struggle.
     
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    mindfly KEN HOLLAND OUT

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    What will the Unit look like?

    1st:
    Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Franzen
    Kronwall-Alfredsson

    2nd:
    Cleary?-Weiss-Bertuzzi?
    Kindl-Smith?
     
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    oooof cleary, that still hurts
     
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    I think Alfredsson helps a lot out point-play. I wasn't impressed about Kronwall's leading point-role at last season, but now Alfie takes some load off from him.

    Sammy sucked at 1st PP when Alfie was off from roster, but I think he will ok at 2nd unit against easier PK units.


    Zeta - Dats - Abdelkader (screen)

    Kronwall - Alfredsson


    Franzen - Weiss - Bertuzzi (screen)

    Kindl - Samuelsson

    These should be the opening night units.

    8 PP-forwards leaves Emmerton, Miller, Andersson and Cleary for PK.
     
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    Abby will probably be on one of them. 1st units nice 2nd not so much. And Sammy may play the point on the 2nd
     
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    Cleary playing either PP or PK is embarrassing and downright unforgivable.
     
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    Hoping for a lot of long shifts for 1st unit
     
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    Can't find the tweet but I remember reading that the Wings were using these units in practice:

    Z-D-Franzen
    Kronwall-Alfie

    Cleary-Weiss-Bert
    Kindl-Sammy

    If this is true the 1st unit should be good but they might as well just leave them out there for the full 2 min cause that abomination of a 2nd unit isn't going to get jack **** done. Feel sorry for Kindl and Weiss there, basically being set up to fail.
     
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    We need Nyquist and Tatar on our 2nd PP. 1st one will be greeaaaaaaaaat.
     
  12. Those two players you mentioned do not play on the Detroit Red Wings.:(
     
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    all thanks to this guy

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    2nd PP will just be booming from the point, lets just hope Kindl can keep getting them through to the net.
     
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    I think Alfie can help out there a lot.
     
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    Not necessary a bad 2nd unit as long as the puck is in the right zone. If the first unit can nail the puck inte the offensive end Weiss can win the face off, and both Kindl and Samuelsson will shoot at first opportunity, while Bert and Cleary is decent at standing around the crease. The PP may not be that creative, buy I think it's better for PP2 to keep it simple. Watch out for turnovers though!
     
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    Um Tatar is being benched by the guy in your avatar picture and they weren't getting the right time because of the same guy in your picture. Holland though shouldn't have given Babcock a chance to choose some of that personnel so he does share a substantial part of that burden. But make no mistake Tatar is press boxed by Babcock not Holland right now.
     
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    Nyquist and Tatar apparently didn't grab their piece of the cheese according to Babcock
     
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    it's easier to blame Holland
     
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    I agree. I'm obviously a Babcock supporter, but he should do his job, and his job is to win. So if the Wings don't win, he's not doing his job well.

    On the other hand, Holland is his boss. So if Babcock isn't doing his job, it's up to Holland to fix that problem.
     
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    If that's the case, then Abdelkeader is a penalty-killer?

    Non-PP-forwards: Andersson, Abdelkader, Miller, Emmerton = PK TOP4.
     
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    Really looking forward to see how Alfredsson elevates the PP. If Sabres are poorly disciplined, this could real ugly, real fast.
     
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    No Abby on pk please.

    Keep him fresh for ES minutes with Dats and Z. Those minutes will be hard enough already without him being stressed on pk.
     
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    He is a young guy and can play the minutes. Depends on what else is going down and he shouldn't play huge minutes there but he isn't terrible at it. Would rather watch him than some of the other guys.

    Don't forget this beauty in game 7 of the Ducks series.

     
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    I'm more concerned with the PK
    -and the lack of speed on our "energy lines"
    --and the reluctance to play youth

    I think the PP will be just fine, I'm not worried about them at all. Unless Cleary is out there on the 2nd unit.
     

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