Potential on Justin Pogge

[DXFlyers]

How decent is this kid. WJC Gold Goalie, still in the playoffs. Is he ready for NHL or he is going to be a Marlie next year?

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[Greek_physique]

Didnt you hear, the Leafs re-signed Aubin for another year...no need to talk about Pogge!

 

[VanW27]

How decent is this kid. WJC Gold Goalie, still in the playoffs. Is he ready for NHL or he is going to be a Marlie next year?

Definately will be a Marlie, very few goalies jump straight to the NHL.

Potential i say decent to below average starter or very good back-up but goalies are very difficult to predict.

 

[Porn*]

Definately will be a Marlie, very few goalies jump straight to the NHL.

Potential i say decent to below average starter or very good back-up but goalies are very difficult to predict.

if its difficult to predict than why are you assuming he'll be "below avg starter or very godo backup" ? just curious.

 

[Geese_Howard*]

Mega superstar franchise goalie... or *shudders* trevor kidd.....

 

[ReLyT]

Very rarely do you see a goalie jump from junior to nhl... it's not wise... he'll be in the AHL or ECHL next season... A big thing with goalies is confidence and if you just toss a 20 year old into the nhl ytou'll scare the kid and hurt his development...

 

[boredmale]

i would say High End Potential is something like Sean Burke, low end is decent backup

 

[VanW27]

if its difficult to predict than why are you assuming he'll be "below avg starter or very godo backup" ? just curious.

Just my prediction of what is most likely. Same as all opinions are for each and every prospect, they are predictions/opinions that could very well be way off. Certainly im not "assuming" anything just my prediction.

 

[zBearcat]

Mega superstar franchise goalie... or *shudders* trevor kidd.....

The first time I saw Pogge with the Hitmen, my immediate reaction was that this is Trevor Kidd Part II. He was also lunging at the puck, and spent an abnormal amount of time sprawling on his stomach for some reason to make saves.

However, during this past year Pogge has really learned how to use his size as an advantage. He seems to being staying a whole lot more balanced and upright taking away a huge portion of the net.

I am interested in seeing how the smaller equipment will affect Pogge. Me personally I really like what I see in Pogge, and he has a great attitude. He would play every game of the season if you asked him too.

Though, I think the Leafs need to be patient with this kid. No need to rush him, and with Raask also in the organization it'll be a great battle down the road.

 

[Aaron Vickers]

I am interested in seeing how the smaller equipment will affect Pogge.

His pads aren't oversized as is.

From standing with him while he's been in full gear, I would judge that everything is legal.

 

[zBearcat]

His pads aren't oversized as is.

From standing with him while he's been in full gear, I would judge that everything is legal.

Oh really??? I didn't know the WHL has the same equipment restrictions as the NHL. For some reason I thought the Dub goalies could still use 12 inch pads.

Well then, he's gone up a bit in my book if he's worn the smaller equipment all year.

 

[Aaron Vickers]

Oh really??? I didn't know the WHL has the same equipment restrictions as the NHL. For some reason I thought the Dub goalies could still use 12 inch pads.

Well then, he's gone up a bit in my book if he's worn the smaller equipment all year.

They do not have the same size restrictions, by law, but I've interviewed him and seen him play all year and I'd be surprised if they didn't match up with NHL legislation.

Granted, I didn't have the equipment to measure on me, but I know where they (would) come up on me.

 

[Kimi]

Sort of related, are most the keepers in the CHL using NHL size pads?

 

[John Agar]

Justin Pogge is...

for real...

Top Flight goaltender. Maturity, water-proof nature, physical skills, technical skills, work ethic, champion pedigree, etc. etc.

Best I have seen in a while out of the WHL.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

High: Solid starter
Low: Career minor leaguer

He's too hard to predict so I tried to have a huge difference.

 

[Pothier]

Sort of related, are most the keepers in the CHL using NHL size pads?

IIRC, they are.

 

[GKJ]

for real...

Top Flight goaltender. Maturity, water-proof nature, physical skills, technical skills, work ethic, champion pedigree, etc. etc.

Best I have seen in a while out of the WHL.

better than Carey Price, you say?

 

[sbtatter]

His pads aren't oversized as is.

From standing with him while he's been in full gear, I would judge that everything is legal.

I think you see a lot of Alberta games, how do you rate and compare Pogge and Keetly's potential?

 

[Roo]

High: Solid starter
Low: Career minor leaguer

He's too hard to predict so I tried to have a huge difference.

this sounds right to me. i dont think anyone really knows anything more than this. way too hard to tell.

 

[Aaron Vickers]

I think you see a lot of Alberta games, how do you rate and compare Pogge and Keetly's potential?

Both are top-five goaltenders in the league, but in terms of potential, Pogge has a significantly greater chance of developing into a starter.

Keetley started late, and was even drafted as an overager (I believe) by the Calgary Flames. He's busted his butt in the last two years to get in shape and to improve his game. At one point I believe he weighed in at over 250lbs, if I remember correctly.

I'd suggest that Pogge has the more potential of the two, without hesitation.

 

[MatthewFlames]

The thing about Pogge is that he has developed since he was drafted at a far faster rate than Keetley or Price. That is not to say that he will be a better NHL goalie than those two although in my opinion, as a season ticket holder of the Hitmen, is that he will. Last night he stopped 40+ shots against Moose Jaw, in Moose Jaw, for a shut-out, and was simply put... amazing.

I don't think he'll be in the NHL any time soon. It just takes most goaltenders a few years to reach that level, and I expect him to be in the AHL for a few seasons unless Toronto has nowhere else to turn.

 

[clay]

I definately don't think that he'll end up better than Rask will.

 

[Quiksilver*]

I definately don't think that he'll end up better than Rask will.

Most people would agree with that statement, even HF has Rask listed as the Top Leaf prospect. I think the way Pogge has developed is pretty much a bonus for the Maple Leafs.

 

[El_Scoobo]

I don't know about Pogge.

Sometimes he plays very well, good rebound control etc. A good example would be game 4 vs. Moose Jaw---looked good, had a shutout. Other times, he puts forward a mediocre effort. A good example of that would be game 3 vs. Moose Jaw. The game winner was a very weak goal, with no screen and it just seemed to go over his shoulder and through his glove. Not very impressive to me and it was at a key time in the game.

I do love his puck handling skills. Fantastic for a player his age.

He really could go either way. He'll have a chance as long as he can stay confident in his abilities.

 

[The Nemesis]

In a way, I'm glad that Pogge-mania from the WJCs has died down. It's nice to see some realistic projections instead of a mass of "OMG Pogge will be the next big superstar!" posts.

I think that at the high end you might be looking at Dan Cloutier, minus the playoff shakiness (those WJCs hopefully gave him some big-game confiedence). He would be a very solid starter who looks even better when he has decent defensive coverage.

The downside might be Mathieu Garon, a "1a" kind of goalie who's a good backup or platoon starter, but who never seems to be able to get it all together and seize a full-fledged starting role.