Rumor: Possible trades with #3 OA

[letowskie]

There are some rumors of us moving #3 for a package that includes a top young C, or to gain additional assets while trading down. Here are some of the deals that are possibilities. Which one(s) would you be OK with if it goes down at the draft.

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[hbk]

There are some rumors of us moving #3 for a package that includes a top young C, or to gain additional assets while trading down. Here are some of the deals that are possibilities. Which one(s) would you be OK with if it goes down at the draft.

CBJ rumours continue to be hot and heavy. Weinberg plays C and holds more interest than Rychel (who has size that we are going to require) and Milano who both unfortunately play a position where we have very good depth. That being said Wennberg had 4 goals and 20 points. This is where scouts make their $.

Avalanche and Duchene fits a need. It comes down to salary and years of asset ownership (4 vs 7).

Drouin and Tampa is interesting. Arguably one of the best young players in the game. C prospect. Question is why have Bolts soured on him so soon? He's the best asset possibly in play. One that is almost impossible to turn down.

Tough poll.

 

[letowskie]

CBJ rumours continue to be hot and heavy. Weinberg plays C and holds more interest than Rychel (who has size that we are going to require) and Milano who both unfortunately play a position where we have very good depth. That being said Wennberg had 4 goals and 20 points. This is where scouts make their $.

Avalanche and Duchene fits a need. It comes down to salary and years of asset ownership (4 vs 7).

Drouin and Tampa is interesting. Arguably one of the best young players in the game. C prospect. Question is why have Bolts soured on him so soon? He's the best asset possibly in play. One that is almost impossible to turn down.

Tough poll.

Yeah; I'm sure Maloney has some good offers and tough choices too (both on whether to do it, or which deal would be optimal).

This poll though, is to vote for ALL trades that you would accept. The poll takes multiple yes answers.

 

[hbk]

Yeah; I'm sure Maloney has some good offers and tough choices too (both on whether to do it, or which deal would be optimal).

This poll though, is to vote for ALL trades that you would accept. The poll takes multiple yes answers.

Crap. Well I would have accepted Wennberg + 8 OV as well

Tempted on Duchene as well.

I know rt will disagree but I want a small + with Reinhart.


This is a franchise defining trade.

 

[Kaizen]

Is the poll which deal is preferred or which deal might come to pass?

 

[letowskie]

Is the poll which deal is preferred or which deal might come to pass?

Neither;

It's which deal you are OK with; so which ever that, if comes to pass, you would not curse GMDM for.

 

[IPreferPi]

I'd be fine w/ Reinhart, Drouin, and Gally.

 

[SniperHF]

I only really like 1 & 2.

The Columbus deals are the next most interesting but I'd just take the pick.

 

[Sinurgy]

CBJ rumours continue to be hot and heavy. Weinberg plays C and holds more interest than Rychel (who has size that we are going to require) and Milano who both unfortunately play a position where we have very good depth. That being said Wennberg had 4 goals and 20 points. This is where scouts make their $.

Avalanche and Duchene fits a need. It comes down to salary and years of asset ownership (4 vs 7).

Drouin and Tampa is interesting. Arguably one of the best young players in the game. C prospect. Question is why have Bolts soured on him so soon? He's the best asset possibly in play. One that is almost impossible to turn down.

Tough poll.

I'm a little nervous about Drouin, I know he's young but he struggled to do much this season despite being surround by amazing talent. That said when he got playing time in the cup finals he did look pretty good! Isn't he a LW though?

 

[Sinurgy]

Let's say the Blue Jackets want Hanifin and the Coyotes want him too but also covet Provorov. Maybe they draft Hanifin with a handshake deal in place that if their guy (Provorov) is available at 8, they will trade Hanifin to Columbus for Wennberg and #8 overall? Of course the problem is I'm not sure it's likely for Provorov to be available at #8.

 

[Llewzaher]

Kessel .. not sure how reliable .. I hope not

https://twitter.com/TheHockeyChat/status/611217607987957760

 

[rt]

Looks like a junk source. Kessel doesn't fit Maloney's age range. He's also the position we have the least need for in terms of C, W, and D.

 

[hbk]

Kessel .. not sure how reliable .. I hope not

https://twitter.com/TheHockeyChat/status/611217607987957760

That was 5 days ago.

Kessel won't apparently waive to come to AZ.

 

[IPreferPi]

I'm a little nervous about Drouin, I know he's young but he struggled to do much this season despite being surround by amazing talent. That said when he got playing time in the cup finals he did look pretty good! Isn't he a LW though?

Drouin produced at 0.46 PPG playing 3rd line minutes on 5v5 in his rookie season. That really isn't too shabby.

 

[letowskie]

Drouin produced at 0.46 PPG playing 3rd line minutes on 5v5 in his rookie season. That really isn't too shabby.

Yeah, Drouin is probably the most offensively gifted of the bunch.

He is the one prospect that could likely outscore Strome/Marner in the future.

The big concern, of course, is how likely he could adjust to playing C (which he has done before, but not in Tampa for whatever reason).

 

[hbk]

Yeah, Drouin is probably the most offensively gifted of the bunch.

He is the one prospect that could likely outscore Strome/Marner in the future.

The big concern, of course, is how likely he could adjust to playing C (which he has done before, but not in Tampa for whatever reason).

Most c prospects start on wing be they get destroyed on faceoffs and struggle with the d responsibilities of the position early on.

Issue with Drouin is work ethic. Everything has just come so easily up to now.

 

[Sinurgy]

Drouin produced at 0.46 PPG playing 3rd line minutes on 5v5 in his rookie season. That really isn't too shabby.

Yeah but he was given multiple chances with players like Stamkos, Callahan, Palat and Johnson but didn't do much with it. The Lightning coaching staff definitely seemed to sour on him but perhaps they expected too much. He was after all most peoples pick to win the Calder so expectations were pretty high. I wouldn't be upset if the Coyotes landed him, I just can't help but wonder why the Lightning would be so open to giving up on him this early? Granted the #3 overall pick isn't exactly chopped liver (did I just answer my own question?)!

 

[letowskie]

Most c prospects start on wing be they get destroyed on faceoffs and struggle with the d responsibilities of the position early on.

Right;

There are several potential targets in similar situations:

Drouin, Milano, Galchenyuk, Nelson.

That's just an extra layer of risk you would have to factor into your decision.

 

[letowskie]

Yeah but he was given multiple chances with players like Stamkos, Callahan, Palat and Johnson but didn't do much with it. The Lightning coaching staff definitely seemed to sour on him but perhaps they expected too much. He was after all most peoples pick to win the Calder so expectations were pretty high. I wouldn't be upset if the Coyotes landed him, I just can't help but wonder why the Lightning would be so open to giving up on him this early? Granted the #3 overall pick isn't exactly chopped liver (did I just answer my own question?)!

I heard that they expected him to be the heir apparent to St. Louis.

That's probably a bit too much pressure on a 19 year old. So it's understandable that he cracks under this type of pressure. Still good to see that he still put up solid numbers the 1st year, and was in contention for the Calder for a good part of the year.

 

[SweYote]

Tried to leave all the boxes empty but it wouldn't let me vote that way.

 

[letowskie]

Tried to leave all the boxes empty but it wouldn't let me vote that way.

Yeah, my bad;

should have left a Non-of-above scenario.

 

[Sinurgy]

and was in contention for the Calder for a good part of the year.

He was a favorite before the season but fell out of the race pretty quickly, I don't think you could really say he was in contention a good part of the year, probably not even half the year. Here's an article in mid December and Drouin wasn't even in the top 10 at that point:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/top-10-calder-trophy-candidates-can-anyone-catch-filip-forsberg/

To be clear, not against Drouin in a Coyotes uniform if they really think he can effectively play center in this league.

 

[Sinurgy]

Tried to leave all the boxes empty but it wouldn't let me vote that way.

I take this to mean you'd prefer they not trade the pick at all?

 

[SniperHF]

Yeah, my bad;

should have left a Non-of-above scenario.

Added it.

 

[SweYote]

I take this to mean you'd prefer they not trade the pick at all?

I would prefer that. You don't get the opportunity to pick a potential franchise player that often. Don't overthink it, pick the player you like most on the board and go home. That is of course as always unless you get an offer that blows you away, none of these really does that for me.

I guess Reinhart is the one you'd have to think about. I don't watch the Canadian junior hockey leagues at all personally so I feel kind of silly making a close call like that myself to be honest. At least that's blue chip for blue chip, I'll say no to pretty much everything that involves piecing together things of lesser value. If the ones of you who actually watch these guys play say Reinhart is a better player than Hanifin, Strome and Marner then I'll bow to your superior knowledge in the matter.