Poll: Thoughts on Ron Francis

[CandyCanes]

Well hey he's a UFA in 2019.

Puts up another 35+ goal season and he's getting a lot more than $3.5mill tho

 

[The Faulker 27]

Puts up another 35+ goal season and he's getting a lot more than $3.5mill tho

And we still won't have a #1C.

 

[bluedevil58]

Eric Staal. The true 1C we have had since Weight, Bindy, and Francis.

#neverforget

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Eric Staal. The true 1C we have had since Weight, Bindy, and Francis.

#neverforget

Weight was a 1C for us?

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Weight was a 1C for us?

Pretty sure he played on the 3rd line during the short time we had him

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Pretty sure he played on the 3rd line during the short time we had him

No no, BD58 said he was a 1C for us, so it must be true.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Aho also will be eligible to sign a contract on July 1st, and I bet his deal gets done before any of the others.

Aho: $6x6
Hanifin: $5x7
Lindy: $5x4
TVR: $2.5x3

I don't want to give Lindy or Hanifin that kind of money. I wouldn't be bent out of shape if either or both of them were on the block this summer to bring us a big scorer or a No. 1 goalie.

 

[bluedevil58]

No no, BD58 said he was a 1C for us, so it must be true.

No he was a 1C but played on our 3rd line due to having Staal and Brindy. Weight was the ultimate set up man and a threat every time he touched the puck and set up behind the net.

If a guy who put up 104 and 90 point seasons along with multiple 70 point seasons. If that's not a 1C even a cheap mans 1C then I simply don't know what is.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

No he was a 1C but played on our 3rd line due to having Staal and Brindy. Weight was the ultimate set up man and a threat every time he touched the puck and set up behind the net.

The 1C / ultimate set-up man who 4G, 9A in 23 games after he was acquired? Doug Weight, had 57 points between St. Louis and Carolina that year. Staal had 102, Brindy had 70. Weight, was not a 1C playing on our 3rd line no matter how much you try to say it. He was a veteran presence who was good on our 3rd line.

 

[bluedevil58]

The 1C / ultimate set-up man who 4G, 9A in 23 games after he was acquired? Doug Weight, had 57 points between St. Louis and Carolina that year. Staal had 102, Brindy had 70. Weight, was not a 1C playing on our 3rd line no matter how much you try to say it. He was a veteran presence who was good on our 3rd line.

Nope he was still a 1C at that time and would have eben the clear cut 1C here at this point in time. You do realize that more decides if someone is a 1C other than playing on the 3rd line? That's right up there with someone saying Skinner is only a 3rd liner because he plays on the 3rd line.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Nope he was still a 1C at that time and would have eben the clear cut 1C here at this point in time. You do realize that more decides if someone is a 1C other than playing on the 3rd line? That's right up there with someone saying Skinner is only a 3rd liner because he plays on the 3rd line.

Nope. 57 points vs. Staal having 100 and Brindy 70. Yeah, sure BD58. Weight's 57 points was good for 39th in the NHL that year among centers. 2nd line center at best. Try again BD58.

Plus, you said Staal was the true 1C "Since" Weight. He was more of a 1C when Weight was here. Try again.

 

[bluedevil58]

Nope. 57 points vs. Staal having 100 and Brindy 70. Yeah, sure BD58. Weight's 57 points was good for 39th in the NHL that year among centers. 2nd line center at best. Try again BD58.

Plus, you said Staal was the true 1C "Since" Weight. He was more of a 1C when Weight was here. Try again.

More like the last group of legit top line centers we last had were Staal, Brindy, and Weight. I do not want to get into a debate with some a dude who claims Weight was not a 1C because he played on the 3rd line. 39 in points for centers that year ad an argument is laughable . Many considered Weight to be the 1C for years on the blues and quite frankly he was. Because he was the 1C there. That makes him a 1C. I rest my case.

*drops mic.

 

[geehaad]

Nope he was still a 1C at that time and would have eben the clear cut 1C here at this point in time. You do realize that more decides if someone is a 1C other than playing on the 3rd line? That's right up there with someone saying Skinner is only a 3rd liner because he plays on the 3rd line.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

 

[bluedevil58]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Name me the 1C for the blues in 2003 - 05ish then.

 

[The Stranger]

Weight was considered a 1C for St. Louis when he was acquired. It's not even a serious debate.

 

[bluedevil58]

Weight was considered a 1C for St. Louis when he was acquired. It's not even a serious debate.

I rest my case.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Weight was considered a 1C for St. Louis when he was acquired. It's not even a serious debate.

Using that logic, Tampa Bay acquired a #1C this past deadline because J.T. Miller played #1C for the Rangers?

 

[The Stranger]

Using that logic, Tampa Bay acquired a #1C this past deadline because J.T. Miller played #1C for the Rangers?

Using what logic?

Edit: When he was traded, Weight was leading all STL forwards in TOI at ~22 min and he had scored 44 points in 47 games. Miller is a nice player, but not the same category.

 

[bluedevil58]

Using what logic?

Yeah seriously. The dude put up a 104 point season, multiple 70, 60 and 50 point seasons, and a 90 point season. Some here tried to argue and then got owned.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Using what logic?

The logic that a player must be a 1C because that's what they were considered before they were traded.

Weight only played (and produced) like a 3C for us, so for us, he was a 3C. Thus, comparing Staal's ability as a 1C for us to Weight's (for us) is faulty logic.

 

[bluedevil58]

The logic that a player must be a 1C because that's what they were considered before they were traded.

Weight only played (and produced) like a 3C for us, so for us, he was a 3C. Thus, comparing Staal's ability as a 1C for us to Weight's (for us) is faulty logic.

I'm not. I simply stated Weight was a 1C. Which clearly he was.

 

[JCLA]

I'm not. I simply stated Weight was a 1C. Which clearly he was.

He was. But not when he was a hurricane

 

[The Stranger]

What constitutes a 1C...you can look at skill/ability, you can look at usage, you can look at production, you can look at league reputation...across the board Weight was a 1c. JT would pass none of those tests as a 1C. There's no comparison. JT Miller was the 5th forward in TOI for NYR.

 

[geehaad]

TIL Jordan Staal is a 1C

 

[CandyCanes]

This debate is dumb