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Vinnie Lecavalier and Martin St. Louis say hello. And they say "check our rings out".
I'd run with Granato for another year FWIW.
(POLL RESET) Who WILL be the Sabres next coach?
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I'd run with Granato for another year FWIW.
sabresEH
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I went back and looked at some of Torts’ past rosters. In the year he won the cup, which is also a vastly different era, his Conn Smythe winning player, 23 years old. The team as a whole was a bit older but so was the entire league.
In the year he took NYR to the Conference Finals. He has two veterans at the top of the list for points (Gaborik, 29, Richards, 31). The rest of the guys after that. 26, 21, 21, 23, 23, 23, 25, 22, 27, 26 before we get to another true veteran in Fedotenko at 32 years old. That roster doesn’t scream veteran laced.
One worry I have is his teams historically have terrible PP’s. If he can stay away from messing that up our roster construction actually lines up well with what he likes. He’ll also have a true superstar since Richards or Lecavalier in TB.
Again, not saying I want him or he should be the target. But the notion that he needs veterans is untrue imo.
In the year he took NYR to the Conference Finals. He has two veterans at the top of the list for points (Gaborik, 29, Richards, 31). The rest of the guys after that. 26, 21, 21, 23, 23, 23, 25, 22, 27, 26 before we get to another true veteran in Fedotenko at 32 years old. That roster doesn’t scream veteran laced.
One worry I have is his teams historically have terrible PP’s. If he can stay away from messing that up our roster construction actually lines up well with what he likes. He’ll also have a true superstar since Richards or Lecavalier in TB.
Again, not saying I want him or he should be the target. But the notion that he needs veterans is untrue imo.
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I'm not as cold on Torts as others. I look at what he did with players like Atkinson, Bjorkstrand, Jones/Werenski on the backend. He demands a two way game and like high character players. I think he could elevate a number of players on this team: Reinhart, Girgs, McCabe, Joker, even Eichel. I worry for a player like Skinner.
If Torts was hired, it would be my happiest Sabres coaching hire in the last decade honestly.
If Torts was hired, it would be my happiest Sabres coaching hire in the last decade honestly.
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Goaltending has been a huge factor in his success. Three of these guys are likely going to the Hall of Fame and one is borderline, Khabibulin, Lundqvist, Luongo and Bobrovsky. Even a vanilla coach like Lindy Ruff can win with a Hall of Fame goalie. The way he handles adversity should be a red flag for the Sabres. He totally lost it with Vancouver, and came close this season. Pierre-Luc Dubois is a high price to pay because the coach won't find ways to relate to his players. Tortorella is very much like Krueger. If you don't follow his concepts and principles to the letter you ride the bench. Dahlin and Cozens would be collecting a lot of splinters. I think Tortorella would be a disaster in Buffalo, particularly with a weak GM trying to control him.
sabresEH
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Agreed goaltending is a big part. Shane O’Brien mentioned on the Missin Curfew podcast that he spoke to PLD after the trade and he himself said it was more an issue with management and contract negotiations than it was Torts himself. He didn’t say Torts wasn’t a problem, but he wasn’t the main problem. Spittin Chiclets had to retract themselves as well when they initially made the comment that it was a PLD Torts conflict that led to the trade. Someone from PLD’s camp contacted SC to tell them to retract their statement a bit.
I agree Torts has his warts. He’s no comparison to how bad Krueger was tho imo.
With the rest of the Sabres management and ownership, probably not.
Bring back Teddy Nolan, 2 year deal. Peca/Barnes as assistants.
This poll lacks the Ralph Krueger option. He's still under contract. Maybe they want him back? 
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Something to consider when hiring coaches that have been around the block a few times is the burnout potential. If they're looking at this as they're last contract and the going gets really tough are they going to increase they're effort and look at different ways of doing things? I think Ralph Krueger was definitely burned out and coasting to the end. The pandemic had something to do with that, but he quit trying. Rex Ryan came to Bills full of piss and vinegar and was beaten down within a year. Having an ownership that wants to be pals with everyone plays a role too. Minnesota has the same kind of ownership so Boudreau would fit. Tortorella would tell them to get off his lawn.
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Good news! (If this is true.)
HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - RUMOR: JD and Torts to Buffalo?(e3) Playoffs Saturday; Mon's Buzz
HockeyBuzz.com - Eklund - RUMOR: JD and Torts to Buffalo?(e3) Playoffs Saturday; Mon's Buzz
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I was wrong about Don Granato and TNT
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Someone posted it in another thread, but there's no need for "If this is true," it's an Eklund rumor, so it's as likely to happen as everyone on this board winning the lottery on the same day
TunaBoss44
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With Reinhart/Eichel already wanting out, I think I'm more on board with retaining Granato. The main appeal of an experienced coach for me was making one last attempt at a run with this core. Might as well go with the guy who's already shown he can get the kids to buy in and see how far he can take them.
EmeraldCitySabre
Yeah, we've got uniforms and everything....
I'm not interested in Granato, I know some on here think he's the greatest coach to ever step behind the bench, will lead the Sabres to multiple cups, and no other human could possibly do any of the things he did as interim HC, but I'm not as convinced. I want someone who has proven they know how to win, but what do I know.
itwasaforwardpass
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If Eichel and Reinhart get traded for prospects and the team goes super young, Granato is a shoe in.
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itwasaforwardpass
I'll be the hyena
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EmeraldCitySabre
Yeah, we've got uniforms and everything....
EmeraldCitySabre
Yeah, we've got uniforms and everything....
HaNotsri
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If we go full rebuild I'd like to keep Granato +Girardi on two year deals.
The young ones are developing fine under him. Would like to get someone new in charge of special teams.
After two more years of rebuilding I want to go with the veteran option.
If we keep Sam/Jack I want an established coach now and for us to go all in on the next season - really treat it as the last chance.
The young ones are developing fine under him. Would like to get someone new in charge of special teams.
After two more years of rebuilding I want to go with the veteran option.
If we keep Sam/Jack I want an established coach now and for us to go all in on the next season - really treat it as the last chance.
BloFan4Life
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If they do go with Granato, they better shell out mega money for the top assistants they can get.
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I was wrong about Don Granato and TNT
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lmao
If they go Granato, they're either bringing back Ellis and Girardi, or replacing them with someone equally as a cheap
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