GDT: PO #4 | Penguins at FLYERS | Wed., April 18, 2018, 7:00 p.m. ET | NBCSN, CBC, TVAS, NBCSP, ATTSN-PT

[Flyerfan4life]

Public enemy #1?

I don't dislike Crosby 1/50th as much as I dislike Dave Hakstol. I like watching good hockey. He's a ****ing great player.

i hate them both... just in different ways... totaly different ways.. but they both can get f***ed

 

[Victory5]

f***ing embarrassing.

No heart, no hustle, nothing. I dont care if its 75-0, play like its your last damn game, you're embarrassing the franchise.

 

[Winston Wolf]

But we're not at 2002 Senators level yet. It can always get worse.

At least we had Cechmanek!

 

[Jtown]

holy f. read that was dirty as hell.

 

[FlyersMania2]

I would rather have Jack Johnson's parents as my financial advisors rather than have Hakstol as our Head Coach for next year.

So good. Great post.

 

[Qyburn]

That was a pretty solid whack. Good on Reader. Give them a little something to remember for next game.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Gotta love how they are resorting to being little bitches when taking penalties. Goes to show the kind of fire Hak instilled in them, which means none.

 

[Rebels57]

But we're not at 2002 Senators level yet. It can always get worse.

We arent? Our 3 losses so far are far worse.

 

[CutOnDime97]

Pretty f***ing dirty slash there

 

[Flukeshot]

I disagree.

Provy, TK, NP, Oskar, and Sanheim all got to get the nerves out.

And they will remember how awful this felt.

Agreed, might as well get your taste as early as possible. They are losing to the first back to back champs in 20+ yrs who have basically the same team for a third year. They will get to see how good you need to be to win.

 

[Magua]

Sullivan puts out his worst players on a PP with 2 minutes left up 5-0 at your home building.

Hakstol does that on a PP up by 1.

Feeeeeels good.

 

[bennysflyers16]

It is. But that is the type of thing we need to show how far away we really are. And how bad Hak is. And the goaltending. And the depth.

But as I said before, Hextall is building us to win on the backs of the new core. Trading Schenn was a huge sign of this. I just wish we had a coach to played the hell out of kids this year, so next year would be better.

And remember, LA had a 101 season, then a 96 point season before adding Richards and Carter. We are not ready to add those last pieces yet because all the kids are not even here yet.

Teams rebuilding and far away can still be competetive and bust their ass, we have a 19 yr old tonight,, that's it.

Something isn't right with this whole process right now

 

[Jtown]

He has had a bad series. I never stated otherwise.


I'm arguing against giving up on him, because we have more than a few examples of "rotten" cores and players suddenly being good with a coach who knows how to use them.

I mean hell, it's not like he was helped at all in the first 3 games playing with Raffl, who killed all offensive pressure every time he got the puck.

raffl did not kill that line, and please don't use him as that low hanging fruit of a scapegoat.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Im watching an outgunned at every position Avalanche team give Nashville a fight in every game.

Its not about losing. Its about HOW they are losing.

There is simply no fight in this team.

Ive said it many times before, but if Hexy wont fire Haklol, then I hope Dave Scott fires both. Hell throw Holmgren in there too. All 3 can go if they prefer to be loyal to each other instead of the team.

^^^yup clean up the mess as far up the chain as it needs to go...

 

[Pelle1985]

should be a fun plane ride for the flyers

 

[Tripod]

Im watching an outgunned at every position Avalanche team give Nashville a fight in every game.

Its not about losing. Its about HOW they are losing.

There is simply no fight in this team.

Ive said it many times before, but if Hexy wont fire Haklol, then I hope Dave Scott fires both. Hell throw Holmgren in there too. All 3 can go if they prefer to be loyal to each other instead of the team.

Avs do have a speed advantage IMO. And speed can cover a lot of mistakes and create chances.

And I have said that I wish we had some burners added to this lineup.

And I also said we have taken on the personality of our coach...no emotion. He is a coward. And I do think he is fired this summer.

 

[Protest]

That fall was hysterical haha. I know he got whacked but he looked like one of the mites falling.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I also think it is time Hextall takes some of the blame. He has been the GM for over 4 years and is responsible for a lot of this mess.

He has made plenty of mistakes, none worse than sticking with the coach after last season, but you can't wave a wand at 17-year-olds and magically make them 21 or 22. Hopefully he will improve with his veteran signings (or better yet, just not make any more and let the prospects fill out the roster and hire a coach who is ACTUALLY IN REALITY good at development) and pro evaluation, etc.

 

[MorgantiDrinksBlood]

Man I love this team but the organization from the top down is a steaming pile of dog shit right now. Changes have to be made.

 

[Beef Invictus]

To go off this point, I am not sure anyone in this board faults Hextall for his restocking off the cupboard and overseeing a few potential successful drafts.

With that being said, it is completely naive to believe Hextall has the ability to evaluate prospect readiness, NHL talent, and coaching staffs. In other words, phase 2 of the rebuild that we are perpetually waiting for.

Right. Phase 1 has been Very Good.


The problem is that Phase 2 has not begun. It should have. And based on what we've seen so far, Hextall has given plenty of reason to doubt he can run Phase 2. Maybe this offseason he shows something new. That would be nice. We will find out.

 

[bennysflyers16]

To go off this point, I am not sure anyone in this board faults Hextall for his restocking off the cupboard and overseeing a few potential successful drafts.

With that being said, it is completely naive to believe Hextall has the ability to evaluate prospect readiness, NHL talent, and coaching staffs. In other words, phase 2 of the rebuild that we are perpetually waiting for.

This Thi This This Thi

Who can actually disagree with this.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Fans didn’t even give enough f***s at this point to throw shit on the ice again.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

We arent? Our 3 losses so far are far worse.

They scored 2 Goals in 5 Games. Yeah, it was worse.

 

[Garbage Goal]

Im watching an outgunned at every position Avalanche team give Nashville a fight in every game.

Its not about losing. Its about HOW they are losing.

There is simply no fight in this team.

Ive said it many times before, but if Hexy wont fire Haklol, then I hope Dave Scott fires both. Hell throw Holmgren in there too. All 3 can go if they prefer to be loyal to each other instead of the team.

Yeah, Avs are a perfect example of how you can be outclassed but still put up a good fight.

It’s not like we’re that much worse a team than them either, we finished just a few points lower despite the coaching gap. If we had a coach that had the team ready to play and utilized his players efficiently there’s no reason this couldn’t at least be a good run and gun goal fest for both sides.

 

[Nizzle]

so proud of this team

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Closed.

Post-game thread: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/po-4-penguins-at-flyers-wed-april-18-2018-7-00-p-m-et.2479311/